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    AWS führt die European Sovereign Cloud ein, um Bedenken hinsichtlich der Datensouveränität auszuräumen

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    2. Brave_Confidence_278 on

      A project dead on arrival, who wants to use american tech in these times

    5. No_Donkey456 on

      There’s definitely a need there but I don’t think an American company can fill it.

    6. swirve-psn on

      Still American controlled.

      There is nothing stopping Trump from forcing AWS to handover European data. Laws only matter to those held to them.

    8. dpwtr on

      The fact they feel the need to actually try and mitigate concerns reaffirms European leverage on this issue. Can’t wait for the isolationist crowd to feel the hurt to their precious companies and the subsequent knock on effects to their economy which they seem to take for granted.

    9. zdzislav_kozibroda on

      Trump: „Hey AWS. Give us all the data we want or you get 50% tax“

      Amazon immediately folds. Case closed.

    10. IntriguinglyRandom on

      Get fucked Amazon! This isn’t about „ethics“ it’s just a gambit to add or maintain profit control.

    12. PrettyFlyForALawGuy on

      Still American controlled. Worth less than zero in terms of digital sovereignty.

    14. youderkB on

      Worthless as long as the parent company remains under US jurisdiction. They will then continue to be forced to hand over data upon request and NOT inform those affected.

    15. MootRevolution on

      There’s nothing Sovereign about this cloud solution if it’s owned by an American company. They will still be legal obliged to share all the data with the US government and it’s agencies.

    18. OrganicWPillowLeft on

      It is national security matter now, having government core services under foreign control is kamikaze behavior

    19. Spinoza42 on

      They’re rushing this out the door with no Cloudfront and no Identity Center, and no plans for a second region. AWS knows if they don’t release it right now they might as well scrap it immediately. I think they’re too late: autumn 2025 a lot of organisations would have jumped at the chance, now if you’re going to migrate, might as well move to European owned. A different AWS partition with less functionality is still a painful migration, better make it still a bit more painful for a more fundamental sovereignty.

    21. yellowbai on

      A fig leaf. The Trump administration won’t care about European sovereignty or law.

    22. kowlown on

      Bullshit. It’s a US company, under the rule of the US „legal“ system.
      Nothing can block any US government to strong-arm this company to hand over the data it has.

      They can also do economic espionage under the guise of corruption investigation.

    23. Loki-L on

      OVH is European. AWS even as a European subsidiary is American.

      Don’t give them more money and power over you.

    24. nymesis_v on

      As a cloud infrastructure engineer working for an EU institution focusing mainly on migrations:

      Just want to add that AWS have been on a hiring spree for the past months to hire exclusively from Europe, likely to try and appease the conditions of the [Cloud Sovereignty framework](https://commission.europa.eu/document/download/09579818-64a6-4dd5-9577-446ab6219113_en?filename=Cloud-Sovereignty-Framework.pdf) announced by the EC earlier last year, or at least have grounds to contest it once the contracts are awarded in the upcoming months. Most of the jobs offered by AWS ESC are [operations / on-call related](https://www.amazon.jobs/en/jobs/3074215/systems-engineer-managed-operations). The pay they are offering is [average or below market level](https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestionsEU/comments/1o0lljp/aws_berlin_job_offer_dilema/) of what is expected and there have been reports of [Indian citizens being denied contracts](https://www.reddit.com/r/Germany_Jobs/comments/1mlhhoc/aws_employment_contract_revoked/) after initially having received an offer likely in favor of hiring local EU talent.

      Myself and many of my colleagues have been approached on LinkedIn by AWS recruiters but to me the AWS offer seems shaky and doesn’t inspire a lot of confidence. Besides the fact that they are the devil, I think they could just pull the plug as soon before I could get any vested bonus working for them.

      In terms of the conditions of the Cloud Sovereignty framework it is quite dangerous because they do seem to tick most of the boxes. If they will not receive the contracts they will likely have grounds to sue. In fact, even the European Cloud providers are unsatisfied by the presented framework, saying there is [no such thing as 75% sovereign](https://www.cispe.cloud/no-such-thing-as-75-organic/).

      In terms of difficulty migrating: I have many AWS certifications and I can tell you that while the AWS offer is very convenient there is absolutely nothing revolutionary about it that could not be implemented with open-source or existing market solutions and tried and tested strategies. It is not easy but bear in mind that the transition to AWS & other cloud providers was done fairly recently so there already a technical and project management experience in place to perform this operation.

      The main bottleneck in my opinion is with security because all of the security software (both for the cloud and outside of it) is mostly American, things Nessus, Fortify, RedHat etc. I legitimately wonder how the Chinese are doing it.

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