Until we see the real physical product in someone’s hand, it’s still just vaporware.
I want it to be true. I would really love it if a tiny Finnish company really did beat the whole world to the solid state battery grail. But it sounds too good to be true, and you know what that means….
Sensitive-Beat-5105 on
company claims it can do 100k cycles, cheaper than lithium, raw materials abundant(and eco friendly), first commercial production coming out in late 2026- theoretically one battery could power my phone for about 800 years😳
-DethLok- on
595km range – for a Motorbike…
Still, big claims made, let’s see what reality reveals when they go on sale ‚in a few months‘!
undeleted_username on
I do not think they know the meaning of „debuts“…
braunyakka on
I’ll take „things that will never make it into production“ for 500, Alex.
timelyparadox on
The limiting factor would still be grid
turb0_encapsulator on
in recent days I have been watching videos and reading articles by people who have done a deeper dive into Donut, and I have to say it actually seems like it’s legit.
How? To achieve such fast charging you’d need to push through a huge amount of energy.
I have looked into this thing and they haven’t supported any of it.
Happy to be proven wrong though, but it feels like it might be way over hyped.
riceinmybelly on
Whereis my paper battery to install in the garage?
goozy1 on
That’s the theoretical speed they could charge but in reality there is no way you could feasibly output that much power to charge it. A 595km range car needs about a 100kWh battery. Charging a 100kWh battery in 10 mins would need 600KW of DC power. Good luck getting that much electricity easily for everyday consumers to use
Leverkaas2516 on
The correct word would be „announced“.
The phrase „debuts with“ strongly implies that there’s a battery in a car somewhere with the claimed characteristics, but there’s nothing in the article that even suggests that it exists.
brett- on
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. They have not shown a single instance of a working battery at any size or capacity.
davidzilla12345 on
For the Americans here: about 370 miles or 390,439 Danny DeVitos
JimmyTheBones on
Okay so about as loose maths as can be done on this, but here goes:
Zero motorcycles can do 283km on a 17.3kwh battery.
With this you would then need a 36.4kwh battery to do 595km.
To charge that in 10 mins you multiply that number by 6 to get the power (10 mins into 1 hour is 6) which requires a 218kw power feed to charge.
garysaidwhat on
All well and good. Now let’s talk about the size of the charger cable, the danger of an ordinary person handling such a cable, the expense and provisioning of a consumer charging station with that many KW’s, the prospect of making any money by offering such a charging station, and the cost to the consumer of jamming that many amps into your magic chariot at such a rate.
chillAvalanche on
I don‘t believe it until I see it as a real product tested independently.
eating_your_syrup on
This company is very, very sus.
cr0ft on
Nothing new in this article. This info has been out (and reported here as well) for a number of days.
They seem very confident and if they have actually created a non-Lithium solid state battery with these stats, they’ve just changed the world and the future and this will even have noticeable geopolitical consequences; no rare earth metals needed to make batteries and the battery lasts centuries?
Extraordinary claims, extraordinary skepticism – but they are saying they’ll ship actual product in months so we don’t have to wait too long to know either way.
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Until we see the real physical product in someone’s hand, it’s still just vaporware.
I want it to be true. I would really love it if a tiny Finnish company really did beat the whole world to the solid state battery grail. But it sounds too good to be true, and you know what that means….
company claims it can do 100k cycles, cheaper than lithium, raw materials abundant(and eco friendly), first commercial production coming out in late 2026- theoretically one battery could power my phone for about 800 years😳
595km range – for a Motorbike…
Still, big claims made, let’s see what reality reveals when they go on sale ‚in a few months‘!
I do not think they know the meaning of „debuts“…
I’ll take „things that will never make it into production“ for 500, Alex.
The limiting factor would still be grid
in recent days I have been watching videos and reading articles by people who have done a deeper dive into Donut, and I have to say it actually seems like it’s legit.
I thought this was a pretty decent investigation: [https://electrek.co/2026/01/14/batter-about-change-world-or-make-this-guy-fool/](https://electrek.co/2026/01/14/batter-about-change-world-or-make-this-guy-fool/)
How? To achieve such fast charging you’d need to push through a huge amount of energy.
I have looked into this thing and they haven’t supported any of it.
Happy to be proven wrong though, but it feels like it might be way over hyped.
Whereis my paper battery to install in the garage?
That’s the theoretical speed they could charge but in reality there is no way you could feasibly output that much power to charge it. A 595km range car needs about a 100kWh battery. Charging a 100kWh battery in 10 mins would need 600KW of DC power. Good luck getting that much electricity easily for everyday consumers to use
The correct word would be „announced“.
The phrase „debuts with“ strongly implies that there’s a battery in a car somewhere with the claimed characteristics, but there’s nothing in the article that even suggests that it exists.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. They have not shown a single instance of a working battery at any size or capacity.
For the Americans here: about 370 miles or 390,439 Danny DeVitos
Okay so about as loose maths as can be done on this, but here goes:
Zero motorcycles can do 283km on a 17.3kwh battery.
With this you would then need a 36.4kwh battery to do 595km.
To charge that in 10 mins you multiply that number by 6 to get the power (10 mins into 1 hour is 6) which requires a 218kw power feed to charge.
All well and good. Now let’s talk about the size of the charger cable, the danger of an ordinary person handling such a cable, the expense and provisioning of a consumer charging station with that many KW’s, the prospect of making any money by offering such a charging station, and the cost to the consumer of jamming that many amps into your magic chariot at such a rate.
I don‘t believe it until I see it as a real product tested independently.
This company is very, very sus.
Nothing new in this article. This info has been out (and reported here as well) for a number of days.
They seem very confident and if they have actually created a non-Lithium solid state battery with these stats, they’ve just changed the world and the future and this will even have noticeable geopolitical consequences; no rare earth metals needed to make batteries and the battery lasts centuries?
Extraordinary claims, extraordinary skepticism – but they are saying they’ll ship actual product in months so we don’t have to wait too long to know either way.