Slippery slope effect dictates AI will get editorial power. then there will be effectively no point for its existence.
I currently donate to them monthly. If they jump into bed with AI, that ends.
Remote-Combination28 on
If I start seeing Ai on Wikipedia. My donations will stop permanently
Chubbadog on
Download all of Wikipedia now before it’s too late.
thebradshawco on
>*While AI training has sparked legal battles elsewhere over copyright and other issues, Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales said he welcomes it.*
>*“I’m very happy personally that AI models are training on Wikipedia data because it’s human curated,” Wales told The Associated Press in an interview. “I wouldn’t really want to use an AI that’s trained only on X, you know, like a very angry AI,” Wales said, referring to billionaire Elon Musk’s social media platform.*
>*Wales said the site wants to work with AI companies, not block them. But “you should probably chip in and pay for your fair share of the cost that you’re putting on us.”*
If you diagram this quote, Wales is suggesting that X isn’t made up of real people, but rather just a bunch of anger-bots. Anecdotally we all suspect this, but it’s interesting to hear the founder of probably the most trusted source of truth on the Internet say it.
AbeFromanEast on
In some ways I feel like AI, as it’s used by the general public, is simply indexed wikipedia and reddit regurgitated back to us.
notPabst404 on
Actually, this is probably a good thing. I would rather AI get it’s content from Wikipedia than most other sources. I don’t think it’s possible to completely get rid of AI at this stage, so might as well go for the least bad implementation.
tayroc122 on
The biggest threat to Wikipedia seems to be its leadership lately. Like most tech things from the 2000s/2010s.
Nkosi868 on
So will that obnoxious pop-up go away now?
74389654 on
download wikipedia now
theclash06013 on
I’m not a fan of AI but my guess is that it was already scraping from Wikipedia anyways, they might as well actually get paid for it since they’re probably taking a pretty big hit to their traffic as a result
Hpfanguy on
As long as Wikipedia stays independent, it’s all good.
americanadiandrew on
If you can’t even be bothered to read past a headline what use do you even have for Wikipedia?
AffectEconomy6034 on
Im genuinely suprised these tech companies didn’t just try to weasel their way out of paying with litigation or some other underhanded method
TomBirkenstock on
This sucks for all the people who put time and effort into Wikipedia believing they were helping a non-profit spread knowledge only for all of that labor to be sucked up by billion dollar companies making the world a worse place.
myislanduniverse on
Hm. Deputy CEO Lisa Gruwell’s „thank you“ email today for being a Wikipedia donor failed to mention this entirely.
I’m not sure how I feel about it yet, but it certainly makes me wonder why I am donating to them or contributing my time if they’re getting corporate funding now.
Maladal on
>The new deals will help one of the world’s most popular websites monetize heavy traffic from AI companies. They’re paying to access Wikipedia content “at a volume and speed designed specifically for their needs,” the foundation said. It did not provide financial or other details.
This is about AI companies having to pay to use Wikipedia.
vegardt on
time to stop my donations.
Jinkii5 on
yay AI powered donation spam.
Meat-Dimension on
Seems like they’re just going to get paid for what AI is already doing with their content
kitsunewill on
I understand that Wikipedia has to pay bills, I just wish it hadn’t decided to roll over for the slopmills.
YZYSZN1107 on
So this is where my donation was headed to. No more money from me.
waddleship on
From what I understand, they’ve been trying to get Big Tech to pay up for scraping their data since long before AI. And rightfully so.
This is the only way for the org to remain solvent, now that AI is here. I also think it’s good for AI to be scraping peer-reviewed information versus closed-loop Grokipedia-esque slop.
It’s a good move.
crysisnotaverted on
This isn’t that bad, it’s using wikipedia for training data. They were already doing it before, this just sounds like ‚please stop murderfucking our servers by crawling them to get the latest data that isn’t in the Wiki dumps yet‘.
Also, here’s a reminder that you can self-host Wikipedia.
Jamizon1 on
Well then, no more money for you, Wikipedia
thatirishguyyyyy on
I guess Wikipedia doesn’t want any more donations from me.
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Slippery slope effect dictates AI will get editorial power. then there will be effectively no point for its existence.
I currently donate to them monthly. If they jump into bed with AI, that ends.
If I start seeing Ai on Wikipedia. My donations will stop permanently
Download all of Wikipedia now before it’s too late.
>*While AI training has sparked legal battles elsewhere over copyright and other issues, Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales said he welcomes it.*
>*“I’m very happy personally that AI models are training on Wikipedia data because it’s human curated,” Wales told The Associated Press in an interview. “I wouldn’t really want to use an AI that’s trained only on X, you know, like a very angry AI,” Wales said, referring to billionaire Elon Musk’s social media platform.*
>*Wales said the site wants to work with AI companies, not block them. But “you should probably chip in and pay for your fair share of the cost that you’re putting on us.”*
If you diagram this quote, Wales is suggesting that X isn’t made up of real people, but rather just a bunch of anger-bots. Anecdotally we all suspect this, but it’s interesting to hear the founder of probably the most trusted source of truth on the Internet say it.
In some ways I feel like AI, as it’s used by the general public, is simply indexed wikipedia and reddit regurgitated back to us.
Actually, this is probably a good thing. I would rather AI get it’s content from Wikipedia than most other sources. I don’t think it’s possible to completely get rid of AI at this stage, so might as well go for the least bad implementation.
The biggest threat to Wikipedia seems to be its leadership lately. Like most tech things from the 2000s/2010s.
So will that obnoxious pop-up go away now?
download wikipedia now
I’m not a fan of AI but my guess is that it was already scraping from Wikipedia anyways, they might as well actually get paid for it since they’re probably taking a pretty big hit to their traffic as a result
As long as Wikipedia stays independent, it’s all good.
If you can’t even be bothered to read past a headline what use do you even have for Wikipedia?
Im genuinely suprised these tech companies didn’t just try to weasel their way out of paying with litigation or some other underhanded method
This sucks for all the people who put time and effort into Wikipedia believing they were helping a non-profit spread knowledge only for all of that labor to be sucked up by billion dollar companies making the world a worse place.
Hm. Deputy CEO Lisa Gruwell’s „thank you“ email today for being a Wikipedia donor failed to mention this entirely.
I’m not sure how I feel about it yet, but it certainly makes me wonder why I am donating to them or contributing my time if they’re getting corporate funding now.
>The new deals will help one of the world’s most popular websites monetize heavy traffic from AI companies. They’re paying to access Wikipedia content “at a volume and speed designed specifically for their needs,” the foundation said. It did not provide financial or other details.
This is about AI companies having to pay to use Wikipedia.
time to stop my donations.
yay AI powered donation spam.
Seems like they’re just going to get paid for what AI is already doing with their content
I understand that Wikipedia has to pay bills, I just wish it hadn’t decided to roll over for the slopmills.
So this is where my donation was headed to. No more money from me.
From what I understand, they’ve been trying to get Big Tech to pay up for scraping their data since long before AI. And rightfully so.
This is the only way for the org to remain solvent, now that AI is here. I also think it’s good for AI to be scraping peer-reviewed information versus closed-loop Grokipedia-esque slop.
It’s a good move.
This isn’t that bad, it’s using wikipedia for training data. They were already doing it before, this just sounds like ‚please stop murderfucking our servers by crawling them to get the latest data that isn’t in the Wiki dumps yet‘.
Also, here’s a reminder that you can self-host Wikipedia.
Well then, no more money for you, Wikipedia
I guess Wikipedia doesn’t want any more donations from me.