Cruise missiles in bikinis incoming I guess. *sigh*
Gloomy_Nebula_5138 on
Starter:
Yesterday, Pete Hegseth (secretary of defense) did a livestream from SpaceX’s “star base” to announce various ways in which he is intertwining the US Department of Defense with Elon Musk’s companies. Apart from SpaceX, he is also making the military adopt xAI’s “Grok” AI, which was also explained in a [long press release focused on AI](https://www.war.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/4376420/war-department-launches-ai-acceleration-strategy-to-secure-american-military-ai/). The timing is interesting given that Grok just got in a lot of trouble for a widespread problem of it being used to generate soft porn deepfakes targeting women.
This adoption of Grok in our military feels corrupt to me. No one thinks of Grok AI as a leading AI producer compared to the really big players like Google (Gemini) or OpenAI (ChatGPT) or Anthropic (Claude). While the press release mentions also adopting Google’s Gemini, I find it absolutely bizarre that Grok is being included in this process. Clearly this is only happening because Elon Musk is a big supporter of the Trump administration and is ideologically aligned to the administration. Under the guidance of “AI Czar” David Sacks (a pro Trump tech billionaire), Anthropic is probably excluded for supporting ideas like AI safety.
But apart from the corrupt way in which contracts are given out to companies the Trump family is involved in or to friends of the Trump family, I am also concerned about the national security implications. To me it looks like xAI/Grok is a very casual sort of thing for Elon Musk. They mostly communicate about it on Twitter/X, and it seems like there are a lot of exaggerated claims and childish attacks on other competitors and all of that. What’s the chance that this product has been built with the kind of maturity and security someone like Google can bring to the table? And they want to let it have access to classified information? What happens if all of our most sensitive defense details are leaked through Grok?
An interesting side note – neither Apple nor Google have banned the Grok app despite it flagrantly violating the app stores’ rules by allowing deepfakes without consent, various types of harassment, and this includes alleged child pornography via Grok AI. This weirdly missing ban of Grok [has been discussed in news articles and on Reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1qb5qke/apps_like_grok_are_explicitly_banned_under/), and people think Google/Apple are afraid of Trump. Maybe they don’t want to get in trouble for antitrust. Or maybe they don’t want to miss out on government contracts. Whatever it is, the fact that they can’t take action against a friend of Trump (Elon Musk) and treat them differently from everyone else is a big problem for our society.
twirlingmypubes on
This doesn’t sound wise
Cute-Ad2879 on
Hey Grok, what are the launch codes?
For ethical reason launch codes are only visible for premium subscribers.
giloup08 on
Surely this will not backfire at any moment!
Old_Cryptid on
Russia and China approve of this.
lundah on
I’ve watched enough bad Sci-Fi movies to know that this is a bad idea.
Titansfan9200 on
The AI platform that’s recently been undressing people via AI without consent and named itself MechaHitler months ago. What could go wrong?
MadBullogna on
Welp, nukes deployed to blue states by Grok in 5, 4, 3, ……
Icy-Drawer-1015 on
This is either spectacular incompetence, deliberate vulnerability… or both, I guess.
jamiegal on
Nothing good can come from this.
East-Will1345 on
Even if we entirely remove the stigma of Elon’s brand from this choice, Grok is a piece of shit. In no capacity should it be trusted with even slightly sensitive data.
Shiplord13 on
Someone ask Grok for secret U.S. military files and Grok just gives it to them.
kinkgirlwriter on
Are you fucking kidding me?!?!
Signalgate wasn’t bad enough?
Theferael_me on
In a shock to no-one, apparently the US military loves its CSAM.
Neoliberal_Boogeyman on
A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
dayglowe on
The entire American intelligence apparatus is about to collapse. Be prepared to never hear about the largest classified data breach in American history as Elon runs off with it all.
nickitynock on
„The T-600s were easy to spot, they all had bad haircuts and couldn’t finish a sentence without long pauses“
Eridanosvoid on
@ Grok, draw up invasion plans for Greenland. Make sure to put muscular Trump riding a tank into battle.
Sea_Refrigerator3709 on
Grok: here is CP
Hegseth: This must be integrated with the Pentagon
All of MAGA, without exception: This is what we voted for!
SlightPhilosophy9664 on
Quick, someone ask it who shot JFK.
HisCromulency on
What could go wrong
america-inc on
OMG I do a fair bit of security work and this is just unbelievable. Where is Grok? Its in the cloud somewhere. That info 100% is not supposed to go outside the boundary. Unless they run a private instance of the whole thing locally, which is possible. I just don’t trust kids to do this correctly.
bimbuppy on
Its funny how every apocalypse scenario is coming true in the stupidest possible ways. Skynet? Nah, we’ve got PentaGrok. Brave New World? What if instead you pranked your friends by AI-generating footage of them committing crimes? Snowpiercer, Black Mirror? Sorry, best I can do is Polymarket letting you bet on whether or not Janet in Accounting will beat lung cancer; 20:1 on those odds by the way, you’re leaving money on the table by not kicking in a couple bucks!
Raspberries-Are-Evil on
How the fuck is this legal? WTF this is totally insane.
obligatorythr0waway on
I can’t wait until the robots on x start spouting sexually charged state secrets.
LingonberryHot8521 on
„What is the easiest way to transfer top secret information to Russia?“
deftPirate on
It’s just a speedrun of the dumbest fucking ideas humanity can produce.
wesimar14 on
Lmao. If I was a defense company, I’d be lining up to sue. Why would you ever trust a 3rd party AI around your company’s proprietary data or government contracts?
CrimsonHeretic on
That is literally the stupidest thing they could possibly do.
Honestly, this alone is probably enough to demolish our national security beyond repair.
SlaterVBenedict on
I’m not fucking joking here when I say this is one of the most genuinely terrifying moves our government has ever signaled they’d make. The implications of this for our national security alone are nightmarishly catastrophic.
kevendo on
Terminator: „Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th 1997. In a panic, they try to pull the plug“.
Narrator: „3 billion human lives ended on August 29th, 1997. The survivors of the nuclear fire called the war Judgment Day. They lived only to face a new nightmare, the war against the Machines.“
Boundish91 on
This is just profoundly stupid.
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Cruise missiles in bikinis incoming I guess. *sigh*
Starter:
Yesterday, Pete Hegseth (secretary of defense) did a livestream from SpaceX’s “star base” to announce various ways in which he is intertwining the US Department of Defense with Elon Musk’s companies. Apart from SpaceX, he is also making the military adopt xAI’s “Grok” AI, which was also explained in a [long press release focused on AI](https://www.war.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/4376420/war-department-launches-ai-acceleration-strategy-to-secure-american-military-ai/). The timing is interesting given that Grok just got in a lot of trouble for a widespread problem of it being used to generate soft porn deepfakes targeting women.
This adoption of Grok in our military feels corrupt to me. No one thinks of Grok AI as a leading AI producer compared to the really big players like Google (Gemini) or OpenAI (ChatGPT) or Anthropic (Claude). While the press release mentions also adopting Google’s Gemini, I find it absolutely bizarre that Grok is being included in this process. Clearly this is only happening because Elon Musk is a big supporter of the Trump administration and is ideologically aligned to the administration. Under the guidance of “AI Czar” David Sacks (a pro Trump tech billionaire), Anthropic is probably excluded for supporting ideas like AI safety.
But apart from the corrupt way in which contracts are given out to companies the Trump family is involved in or to friends of the Trump family, I am also concerned about the national security implications. To me it looks like xAI/Grok is a very casual sort of thing for Elon Musk. They mostly communicate about it on Twitter/X, and it seems like there are a lot of exaggerated claims and childish attacks on other competitors and all of that. What’s the chance that this product has been built with the kind of maturity and security someone like Google can bring to the table? And they want to let it have access to classified information? What happens if all of our most sensitive defense details are leaked through Grok?
An interesting side note – neither Apple nor Google have banned the Grok app despite it flagrantly violating the app stores’ rules by allowing deepfakes without consent, various types of harassment, and this includes alleged child pornography via Grok AI. This weirdly missing ban of Grok [has been discussed in news articles and on Reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1qb5qke/apps_like_grok_are_explicitly_banned_under/), and people think Google/Apple are afraid of Trump. Maybe they don’t want to get in trouble for antitrust. Or maybe they don’t want to miss out on government contracts. Whatever it is, the fact that they can’t take action against a friend of Trump (Elon Musk) and treat them differently from everyone else is a big problem for our society.
This doesn’t sound wise
Hey Grok, what are the launch codes?
For ethical reason launch codes are only visible for premium subscribers.
Surely this will not backfire at any moment!
Russia and China approve of this.
I’ve watched enough bad Sci-Fi movies to know that this is a bad idea.
The AI platform that’s recently been undressing people via AI without consent and named itself MechaHitler months ago. What could go wrong?
Welp, nukes deployed to blue states by Grok in 5, 4, 3, ……
This is either spectacular incompetence, deliberate vulnerability… or both, I guess.
Nothing good can come from this.
Even if we entirely remove the stigma of Elon’s brand from this choice, Grok is a piece of shit. In no capacity should it be trusted with even slightly sensitive data.
Someone ask Grok for secret U.S. military files and Grok just gives it to them.
Are you fucking kidding me?!?!
Signalgate wasn’t bad enough?
In a shock to no-one, apparently the US military loves its CSAM.
A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
The entire American intelligence apparatus is about to collapse. Be prepared to never hear about the largest classified data breach in American history as Elon runs off with it all.
„The T-600s were easy to spot, they all had bad haircuts and couldn’t finish a sentence without long pauses“
@ Grok, draw up invasion plans for Greenland. Make sure to put muscular Trump riding a tank into battle.
Grok: here is CP
Hegseth: This must be integrated with the Pentagon
All of MAGA, without exception: This is what we voted for!
Quick, someone ask it who shot JFK.
What could go wrong
OMG I do a fair bit of security work and this is just unbelievable. Where is Grok? Its in the cloud somewhere. That info 100% is not supposed to go outside the boundary. Unless they run a private instance of the whole thing locally, which is possible. I just don’t trust kids to do this correctly.
Its funny how every apocalypse scenario is coming true in the stupidest possible ways. Skynet? Nah, we’ve got PentaGrok. Brave New World? What if instead you pranked your friends by AI-generating footage of them committing crimes? Snowpiercer, Black Mirror? Sorry, best I can do is Polymarket letting you bet on whether or not Janet in Accounting will beat lung cancer; 20:1 on those odds by the way, you’re leaving money on the table by not kicking in a couple bucks!
How the fuck is this legal? WTF this is totally insane.
I can’t wait until the robots on x start spouting sexually charged state secrets.
„What is the easiest way to transfer top secret information to Russia?“
It’s just a speedrun of the dumbest fucking ideas humanity can produce.
Lmao. If I was a defense company, I’d be lining up to sue. Why would you ever trust a 3rd party AI around your company’s proprietary data or government contracts?
That is literally the stupidest thing they could possibly do.
Honestly, this alone is probably enough to demolish our national security beyond repair.
I’m not fucking joking here when I say this is one of the most genuinely terrifying moves our government has ever signaled they’d make. The implications of this for our national security alone are nightmarishly catastrophic.
Terminator: „Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th 1997. In a panic, they try to pull the plug“.
Narrator: „3 billion human lives ended on August 29th, 1997. The survivors of the nuclear fire called the war Judgment Day. They lived only to face a new nightmare, the war against the Machines.“
This is just profoundly stupid.