Or if your state legislature is run by the GOP and a ballot measure they don’t like gets voted in by the people, they can just change the law or ignore it completely. See congressional maps and abortion in Ohio, Abortion in Kansas, medical marijuana in FL etc.
To elaborate on the Mississippi situation, the law specified that the signatures had to come from the state’s *five* Congressional districts, but then Mississippi lost a seat following the 2000 census, and so the state Supreme Court eventually ruled in 2021 that the process was out of order as it is currently impossible to meet the requirements.
YoungPotato on
As someone from CA, I didn’t realize citizen-induced measures isn’t widespread lol.
GeorgeLichen on
Californian here. I generally dislike all our referendums because any rich asshole can pay people to stand outside of grocery stores for months to collect enough signatures to get whatever awful thing they want on the ballot. Prop 8 you may recall from 2008 was a pernicious piece of anti-LGBTQ+ legislation that recieved a lot of out-of-state support and passed. Another one from I believe ’22 ensured that Uber and Lyft drivers can’t be considered employees so they get screwed.
Our legislature would not have passed either of these bills. We elect our legislators to represent us. But here comes election year propaganda to sway enough morons so the rich, hateful oligarchs who really run this state can have their way. It drives me crazy.
Playingwithmywenis on
This may have been useful information BEFORE you installed a dictatorship.
Nice job BTW. SMH
vm_linuz on
Just more evidence the West is its own place.
theexpertgamer1 on
Citizen-initiated ballot measures seem good at first glance, but they’re actually terrible. At least in the way California implemented them..
romulusnr on
Is it universally the case that „repeal“ is only valid within a certain window after passage? My understanding of the WA process is if it’s recent, it’s a referendum, whereas if it’s older, it’s just an initiative to change the law to go the other way.
Referendums always seem to confuse people because being *for* the referendum means being *against* the law in question
Bella_Mia_ on
Maine doesn’t require legislative approval just that it allows the legislature to approve before its sent on ballots
crazycatlady331 on
I wish we had them in PA.
We’d have a higher minimum wage than $7.25 and legal weed if we had them.
Jonny_Disco on
I’m actually proud of Ohio here. Ohio seems to do better at voting directly on policy than voting for politicians.
PatsFreak101 on
Pretty sure Maine has had two citizens initiatives tossed out in court in the last five years so I have no idea how binding they actually are
Perturabo_Iron_Lord on
If they have the star next to the name they might as well be red. Having to get the legislatures approval kinda defeats the whole purpose of citizen ballot measures.
notPabst404 on
More states need these. Direct democracy is a good thing.
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Or if your state legislature is run by the GOP and a ballot measure they don’t like gets voted in by the people, they can just change the law or ignore it completely. See congressional maps and abortion in Ohio, Abortion in Kansas, medical marijuana in FL etc.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initiatives_and_referendums_in_the_United_States#Referendum_law_by_state
To elaborate on the Mississippi situation, the law specified that the signatures had to come from the state’s *five* Congressional districts, but then Mississippi lost a seat following the 2000 census, and so the state Supreme Court eventually ruled in 2021 that the process was out of order as it is currently impossible to meet the requirements.
As someone from CA, I didn’t realize citizen-induced measures isn’t widespread lol.
Californian here. I generally dislike all our referendums because any rich asshole can pay people to stand outside of grocery stores for months to collect enough signatures to get whatever awful thing they want on the ballot. Prop 8 you may recall from 2008 was a pernicious piece of anti-LGBTQ+ legislation that recieved a lot of out-of-state support and passed. Another one from I believe ’22 ensured that Uber and Lyft drivers can’t be considered employees so they get screwed.
Our legislature would not have passed either of these bills. We elect our legislators to represent us. But here comes election year propaganda to sway enough morons so the rich, hateful oligarchs who really run this state can have their way. It drives me crazy.
This may have been useful information BEFORE you installed a dictatorship.
Nice job BTW. SMH
Just more evidence the West is its own place.
Citizen-initiated ballot measures seem good at first glance, but they’re actually terrible. At least in the way California implemented them..
Is it universally the case that „repeal“ is only valid within a certain window after passage? My understanding of the WA process is if it’s recent, it’s a referendum, whereas if it’s older, it’s just an initiative to change the law to go the other way.
Referendums always seem to confuse people because being *for* the referendum means being *against* the law in question
Maine doesn’t require legislative approval just that it allows the legislature to approve before its sent on ballots
I wish we had them in PA.
We’d have a higher minimum wage than $7.25 and legal weed if we had them.
I’m actually proud of Ohio here. Ohio seems to do better at voting directly on policy than voting for politicians.
Pretty sure Maine has had two citizens initiatives tossed out in court in the last five years so I have no idea how binding they actually are
If they have the star next to the name they might as well be red. Having to get the legislatures approval kinda defeats the whole purpose of citizen ballot measures.
More states need these. Direct democracy is a good thing.