This is relevant due to discussing what was a long time conspiracy.
Source: The Samson Option – Seymour Hersh:
>The Israeli, who has firsthand knowledge of his govern- ment’s nuclear weapons program, added bitterly: „We got the message. We can still remember the smell of Auschwitz and Treblinka. Next time we’ll take all of you with us.“
military historian, Martin van Creveld:
>“We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: ‚Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.‘ I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.“
professor David Perlmutter:
>“Israel has been building nuclear weapons for 30 years. The Jews understand what passive and powerless acceptance of doom has meant for them in the past, and they have ensured against it. Masada was not an example to follow—it hurt the Romans not a whit, but Samson in Gaza? What would serve the Jew-hating world better in repayment for thousands of years of massacres but a Nuclear Winter. Or invite all those tut-tutting European statesmen and peace activists to join us in the ovens? For the first time in history, a people facing extermination while the world either cackles or looks away—unlike the Armenians, Tibetans, World War II European Jews or Rwandans—have the power to destroy the world. The ultimate justice?“
JaktoPar on
For me (personally only) I will be happy to die in a nuclear bomb as long as the world will be free from the cancer of the earth.
Faith_Location_71 on
A rogue nation.
Joe_Stylin777 on
isr*elis really out here underestimating just how nihilist people these days are… they’d love to see nuclear Armageddon.
Skeptik1964 on
So how is this conceptually different or more abhorrent than the MAD doctrine practiced by NATO and the USSR during the Cold War or, presumably, in place now between the tri-polar nuclear stand-off that exists between Russia, China, and the West today? You make it sound like this is somehow different or worse.
humblenar on
A blackmailing plan to keep getting unlimited military funds from US
Relative-Camel-9762 on
They’re lunatics and need to be dismantled for the good of humanity
Lockpickman on
Old news.
That_Dependent_3265 on
Meh they can just do it the less destructive way and release the un-redacted E-files in all directions and destroy most governments with a single click.
Own_Analyst_2034 on
This is a boring and recycled topic. We all know the Samson protocol.
robotmats on
The bombs might already be placed in „israeli“ and/or US embassies/institutions around the world. That is one way they could control governments.
schm0uz on
Imagine you’re American, and these people run large parts of your government. No wonder burgers are so into prepping.
databurger on
The Samson Option represents an „abandonment of proportionality“? 🧐
SlyguyguyslY on
I see 2 actual angles. Israeli “be scared of us.” and every Muslim country disinfo “See? They’re the bad guys, not us! Now let us inva- I mean, now let us join you.” Plus, every anti-west nation would push it as propaganda just the same and every anti-Semitic person would help.
This stuff probably isn’t real either way. It’s one thing to be better at fighting than the surrounding nations, but it’s a whole different thing to do this when so many other nations have tried for decades and failed. Quite frankly, these posts about Samson option are getting sloppy.
Splendidlogic on
Dont all Nuclear powers technically have this option? They could detonate nukes on their own soil in spite for instance. Taking everyone down with them in a nuclear winter. Like.. couldn’t any power do that today? We wouldn’t be able to detect or stop a local detonation.
WayComprehensive9220 on
They are psycopaths.
kiwi_spawn on
It is an interesting theory. A rogue nation, thats survival is based on the fact that it has those weapons. And which ever Arab or Persian nation which attacks it. May indeed suffer much worse.
Its interesting that no nation has used the nuclear option. North Korea against the South and South Koreas allies in Taiwan, Japan and of course the US.
India and Pakistan against one another or India against China.
South Africa may have them as their partner in crime Israel. It makes sense they would share the wealth of their efforts to develop thrm jointly.
Truth-Seeker916 on
I always wondered if the president is compromised. Does that mean the people who are compromising him have the nuclear codes?🤔
RhaegarJ on
All this time I thought it was Vault-Tec
Przyer on
I think if this scenario was to ever be deployed, it would begin the split between the true lunatics and the yes men within Israeli leadership. It’s all happy and dandy when you’re profiting off genocide that doesn’t do anything to you personally but make you rich, but when shit becomes real in their lives and there’s a true chance they lose their life & their loved ones that core concept shifts a persons thinking.
Yes men > Lunatics in number I believe. Genuinely. I think Israel as sadistic as it’s painted to be has a handful (maybe a little more) of lunatics that are driving current affairs by leveraging yes men, and lining pockets to see their affairs play out. Money buys a persons morals only to the point where their own emotions, family, and stability may be affected. We are selfish by nature in this regard I guess.
The financial backers of Israel, how would they respond to such? Wiping out large populations of the world that are the core reason they are able to be in such positions? Not sure about how that reaction would play, you hear about the shadow drama of depopulation here and there but financially it makes little sense. And as we knowwwww money is the route of all in our world.
I do think there is a power switch between Israeli leadership & their funding that may be a lot more delicate than one would think. Especially in a context like this.
Even so, history would tell us most of us probably won’t ever see this event in our lifetimes even if it were to happen.
Nihilamealienum on
I mean if *Ron Rosenbaum* said it, who are we to question?
He even has a Jewy name.
/s
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This is relevant due to discussing what was a long time conspiracy.
Source: The Samson Option – Seymour Hersh:
>The Israeli, who has firsthand knowledge of his govern- ment’s nuclear weapons program, added bitterly: „We got the message. We can still remember the smell of Auschwitz and Treblinka. Next time we’ll take all of you with us.“
military historian, Martin van Creveld:
>“We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: ‚Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.‘ I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.“
professor David Perlmutter:
>“Israel has been building nuclear weapons for 30 years. The Jews understand what passive and powerless acceptance of doom has meant for them in the past, and they have ensured against it. Masada was not an example to follow—it hurt the Romans not a whit, but Samson in Gaza? What would serve the Jew-hating world better in repayment for thousands of years of massacres but a Nuclear Winter. Or invite all those tut-tutting European statesmen and peace activists to join us in the ovens? For the first time in history, a people facing extermination while the world either cackles or looks away—unlike the Armenians, Tibetans, World War II European Jews or Rwandans—have the power to destroy the world. The ultimate justice?“
For me (personally only) I will be happy to die in a nuclear bomb as long as the world will be free from the cancer of the earth.
A rogue nation.
isr*elis really out here underestimating just how nihilist people these days are… they’d love to see nuclear Armageddon.
So how is this conceptually different or more abhorrent than the MAD doctrine practiced by NATO and the USSR during the Cold War or, presumably, in place now between the tri-polar nuclear stand-off that exists between Russia, China, and the West today? You make it sound like this is somehow different or worse.
A blackmailing plan to keep getting unlimited military funds from US
They’re lunatics and need to be dismantled for the good of humanity
Old news.
Meh they can just do it the less destructive way and release the un-redacted E-files in all directions and destroy most governments with a single click.
This is a boring and recycled topic. We all know the Samson protocol.
The bombs might already be placed in „israeli“ and/or US embassies/institutions around the world. That is one way they could control governments.
Imagine you’re American, and these people run large parts of your government. No wonder burgers are so into prepping.
The Samson Option represents an „abandonment of proportionality“? 🧐
I see 2 actual angles. Israeli “be scared of us.” and every Muslim country disinfo “See? They’re the bad guys, not us! Now let us inva- I mean, now let us join you.” Plus, every anti-west nation would push it as propaganda just the same and every anti-Semitic person would help.
This stuff probably isn’t real either way. It’s one thing to be better at fighting than the surrounding nations, but it’s a whole different thing to do this when so many other nations have tried for decades and failed. Quite frankly, these posts about Samson option are getting sloppy.
Dont all Nuclear powers technically have this option? They could detonate nukes on their own soil in spite for instance. Taking everyone down with them in a nuclear winter. Like.. couldn’t any power do that today? We wouldn’t be able to detect or stop a local detonation.
They are psycopaths.
It is an interesting theory. A rogue nation, thats survival is based on the fact that it has those weapons. And which ever Arab or Persian nation which attacks it. May indeed suffer much worse.
Its interesting that no nation has used the nuclear option. North Korea against the South and South Koreas allies in Taiwan, Japan and of course the US.
India and Pakistan against one another or India against China.
South Africa may have them as their partner in crime Israel. It makes sense they would share the wealth of their efforts to develop thrm jointly.
I always wondered if the president is compromised. Does that mean the people who are compromising him have the nuclear codes?🤔
All this time I thought it was Vault-Tec
I think if this scenario was to ever be deployed, it would begin the split between the true lunatics and the yes men within Israeli leadership. It’s all happy and dandy when you’re profiting off genocide that doesn’t do anything to you personally but make you rich, but when shit becomes real in their lives and there’s a true chance they lose their life & their loved ones that core concept shifts a persons thinking.
Yes men > Lunatics in number I believe. Genuinely. I think Israel as sadistic as it’s painted to be has a handful (maybe a little more) of lunatics that are driving current affairs by leveraging yes men, and lining pockets to see their affairs play out. Money buys a persons morals only to the point where their own emotions, family, and stability may be affected. We are selfish by nature in this regard I guess.
The financial backers of Israel, how would they respond to such? Wiping out large populations of the world that are the core reason they are able to be in such positions? Not sure about how that reaction would play, you hear about the shadow drama of depopulation here and there but financially it makes little sense. And as we knowwwww money is the route of all in our world.
I do think there is a power switch between Israeli leadership & their funding that may be a lot more delicate than one would think. Especially in a context like this.
Even so, history would tell us most of us probably won’t ever see this event in our lifetimes even if it were to happen.
I mean if *Ron Rosenbaum* said it, who are we to question?
He even has a Jewy name.
/s