We need to take care of our farmers in the face of this, including those who lease the land they farm. But we also need to get away from our US-centric trade policy given their being an unreliable partner. Tough choices, and I don’t know what the right one is.
Moist-Dependent5241 on
Isn’t our beef and dairy renowned? Shouldn’t we do everything to develop and protect that industry?
buzzbaron on
Cutting down the Amazon faster will defo be a good way to tackle climate change, big bualadh bos for ya Ursula.
updoon on
The main opponents appear to be farmers. I understand their grievances. Having to provide food that is safe for consumption only for your government to import millions of tonnes of unregulated beef is a tough pill to swallow.
But where are the food regulators? My fix would be, import the bloody beef and make dam certain it has an appropriate health warning „may contain hormones or antibiotics that are harmful for human consumption“ or similar. Should be same for restaurants and fast food serving beef without packaging. This stuff is going to be imported (as it always has been just in bigger quantities) and they don’t give a shit. Yet we are hearing of more and more food recalls on other products.
Brave-Mistake-1007 on
Good news for EU , bad news for polluting Irish farmers.
Drengi36 on
Shocked…..not shocked
KeyboardWarrior90210 on
We’re an export nation. We need to do trade deals to help diversify trade and expand markets. There’s always winners and losers in them but overall the effect will be net positive. Ireland only voted against it because the government knew there was enough votes for it to pass
Cautious-Hovercraft7 on
Isn’t it great, look at all the cars Germany and France will be selling to latin America
MajesticKnob on
EU is becoming a shit show
MajesticKnob on
You vill eat ze Brazilian beef!!!!
jacqueVchr on
Mercusor is an incredibly good deal for the Irish economy. It removes tariffs from our top exports (chemicals) removes imports of rare earths into the EU (needed for vast swathes of production) and increase imports on consumer goods.
This also isn’t the doomsday scenario that farmers claim it to be. Whilst the farming sector (an increasingly smaller share of the economy) who are already highly subsidised cry foul of any trade deal (they’re doing the same with CETA) total beef imports into the EU will only increase to a maximum of 99k tonnes ie 1.5% of total beef production. A lot of this beef is already being imported, the only difference is that the 8% import tariff is being removed.
CorkNativeResident on
We are absolutely fucked
Grand-Cup-A-Tea on
Ireland voted against this yet imports animal feed from many of these counties. Me thinks food safety isn’t the 1st priority here.
JohnC_92 on
I don’t know much about this but I am skeptical of commenters who describe it as all upside for Ireland and the EU. No downsides. How can that be the case?
muttonwow on
Just like those who didn’t read the EU Migration Pact, this will be forgotten about by many of the deals opponents within a week.
Shadowbringers on
Great news. Farmers are the most heavily subsidised group in Europe and all their doomposting propaganda didn’t matter in the end. You would think this massive deal is all about beef if you read the headlines.
Europe needs to diversify trade and this is a great step
Hps95 on
Thank god, now we will have more cheap Brazilian products in Ireland and more Kerrygold and Guinness in Brazil. Being great for everyone.
Legal_Marsupial_9650 on
I love how people with an obvious vested interest in Irish beef are pointing to environment destruction in Brazil as an argument against the deal while bio diversity in Ireland is decimated by the farming community here. They literally argued for a nitrates derogation to allow the continued poising of our water ways, diluted hypocrites. People love to baulk at families living off welfare, the biggest scroungers in this country are the hundreds of „plastic farmers“ keeping the herd just good enough to tap into tens of thousands each year from Brussels.
arruda82 on
The Brazilian farming industry is so vast and enforcement can be very corrupt in many regions, that it is very hard to avoid unsafe products getting into the market here. It’s easier to control and track origins and quality with lower volumes, but with the doors wide open from now on, I’m really concerned about a drop in quality and health risks that will only be noticed later on. I will stick to local produce as much as possible.
Zapper_jnr on
No choice now but to accept it. Hopefully it benefits Ireland and it’s citizens not just the bigger eu countries
compulsive_tremolo on
Good. Europe needs to diversify to survive the volatility of the US and the rise (and increased leverage) of China. Giving this up for protectionist farming measures would have been a giant mistake.
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at least the MEPS can stop it its a bad deal
We need to take care of our farmers in the face of this, including those who lease the land they farm. But we also need to get away from our US-centric trade policy given their being an unreliable partner. Tough choices, and I don’t know what the right one is.
Isn’t our beef and dairy renowned? Shouldn’t we do everything to develop and protect that industry?
Cutting down the Amazon faster will defo be a good way to tackle climate change, big bualadh bos for ya Ursula.
The main opponents appear to be farmers. I understand their grievances. Having to provide food that is safe for consumption only for your government to import millions of tonnes of unregulated beef is a tough pill to swallow.
But where are the food regulators? My fix would be, import the bloody beef and make dam certain it has an appropriate health warning „may contain hormones or antibiotics that are harmful for human consumption“ or similar. Should be same for restaurants and fast food serving beef without packaging. This stuff is going to be imported (as it always has been just in bigger quantities) and they don’t give a shit. Yet we are hearing of more and more food recalls on other products.
Good news for EU , bad news for polluting Irish farmers.
Shocked…..not shocked
We’re an export nation. We need to do trade deals to help diversify trade and expand markets. There’s always winners and losers in them but overall the effect will be net positive. Ireland only voted against it because the government knew there was enough votes for it to pass
Isn’t it great, look at all the cars Germany and France will be selling to latin America
EU is becoming a shit show
You vill eat ze Brazilian beef!!!!
Mercusor is an incredibly good deal for the Irish economy. It removes tariffs from our top exports (chemicals) removes imports of rare earths into the EU (needed for vast swathes of production) and increase imports on consumer goods.
This also isn’t the doomsday scenario that farmers claim it to be. Whilst the farming sector (an increasingly smaller share of the economy) who are already highly subsidised cry foul of any trade deal (they’re doing the same with CETA) total beef imports into the EU will only increase to a maximum of 99k tonnes ie 1.5% of total beef production. A lot of this beef is already being imported, the only difference is that the 8% import tariff is being removed.
We are absolutely fucked
Ireland voted against this yet imports animal feed from many of these counties. Me thinks food safety isn’t the 1st priority here.
I don’t know much about this but I am skeptical of commenters who describe it as all upside for Ireland and the EU. No downsides. How can that be the case?
Just like those who didn’t read the EU Migration Pact, this will be forgotten about by many of the deals opponents within a week.
Great news. Farmers are the most heavily subsidised group in Europe and all their doomposting propaganda didn’t matter in the end. You would think this massive deal is all about beef if you read the headlines.
Europe needs to diversify trade and this is a great step
Thank god, now we will have more cheap Brazilian products in Ireland and more Kerrygold and Guinness in Brazil. Being great for everyone.
I love how people with an obvious vested interest in Irish beef are pointing to environment destruction in Brazil as an argument against the deal while bio diversity in Ireland is decimated by the farming community here. They literally argued for a nitrates derogation to allow the continued poising of our water ways, diluted hypocrites. People love to baulk at families living off welfare, the biggest scroungers in this country are the hundreds of „plastic farmers“ keeping the herd just good enough to tap into tens of thousands each year from Brussels.
The Brazilian farming industry is so vast and enforcement can be very corrupt in many regions, that it is very hard to avoid unsafe products getting into the market here. It’s easier to control and track origins and quality with lower volumes, but with the doors wide open from now on, I’m really concerned about a drop in quality and health risks that will only be noticed later on. I will stick to local produce as much as possible.
No choice now but to accept it. Hopefully it benefits Ireland and it’s citizens not just the bigger eu countries
Good. Europe needs to diversify to survive the volatility of the US and the rise (and increased leverage) of China. Giving this up for protectionist farming measures would have been a giant mistake.