That is the absolute incorrect way to do dual-pricing. Of course that will fail. There’s also the right way that uses residency status as a differentiator which I support
Sea_Individual_3148 on
Lol the tweet in the news article is saying a chinese person can read Kanji and found out about the double price system (english vs Japanese), therefore the guy is proposing to ban chinese tourists as a solution…
Dam god forbid other foreigners that can also read japanese.
If you want to do double pricing just be upfront about it? Why try to hide it then get mad when someone found out (then be like dam frigging foreigners’ fault again)?
Also why not just do by ID or something…? Anyone will feel it’s shady when its hidden based on menu language
BadIdeaSociety on
It is not unusual (in the US) for a tourist attraction or local business to have a resident’s discount. It is usually quite local though (within the town or county) and not based on nationality.
Akamas1735 on
They should just do what businesses in Hawaii do—offer kama aina (local resident) discounts. No one complains about that difference that I have ever seen or heard.
ThomasKyoto on
The difference between ‘local resident discounts’ and ‘higher prices for foreigners’ is the difference between rational fairness and xenophobia.
Quiet-Tadpole-1072 on
I looked up this restaurant and it appears that if you are a foreigner they will make you order on the screen in a language other than Japanese. I think even if you can read Japanese they will make you pay the foreigner price. As a resident who lives here and is fluent in Japanese, fuck this restaurant.
edit: read some more google reviews and if you are a foreigner who tries to order on the japanese screen a staff member will come over and yell at you to order in your native language
Aijin28 on
I will just get my wife to order for me.
momoenthusiastic on
Resident discount is the way to go for sure.
SavingsSpite6366 on
I would take one look at those prices on the English menu and know instantly they’re exorbitant for a chain restaurant and ask them in Japanese why they don’t have a Japanese menu 😆
rock3rlynn on
#cancelthisshop
DoomedKiblets on
It’s racist at its core and a truly terrible idea. I’m a resident here, and I don’t want to deal with this shit ever fucking time I eat or go somewhere cuz „show your papers“
MattN92 on
Racists and morons, did they think they could keep this a secret?
thats_gotta_be_AI on
Can’t I just point to the kanji written item on the menu (with its associated price) and order it that way? Does the owner then lie and say we don’t have that in stock, or would he say “that item is not available to you because of how I perceive you”?
qwertyqyle on
Why is the author’s title „Director of the International Casino Research Institute?“
MegaMechWorrier on
Hm, there’s a cute mascot for everything.
I think that what’s needed here is a Bigot-chan mascot.
That way, there would be no need for pissing about with bigoted pricing for the strange foreigner man, or broadcasting their bigotry to the world.
No. Instead, they would simply have to purchase an official Bigot-chan sign from the ward office to display on their shop’s door.
That way, potential patrons would easily be able to tell that the business owner is a bigot, and take their business elsewhere.
pcurve on
Just do what some European places do.. Provide EU resident discount. Either provide discount for Japanese resident or local resident. But they should not do this for food / restaurants.
ghim7 on
Some restaurants didn’t charge extra but simply gives you English menu with 4 items to choose from, while the Japanese menu has 30+ items 😂
Copperton on
Why can’t Japan just charge one of those tourist tax at the airport like other countries do..? To be honest, I want to visit Japan again but seeing this is really turning me off…
EvictionSpecialist on
I’d pay to eat somewhere else just because of the principle. Hope this shop closes soon. FTP
scotchegg72 on
“Foreigners should assimilate”. Foreigners learn language so can read the scams. “Not like that!”
shchemprof on
If you have a separate price for foreigners, I’m not giving you my business.
xuanq on
I’m sorry, I’ve never had good experiences in Osaka. Many say those in Osaka are boisterous and direct (in a good way), but IMO many of them really are just rude and xenophobic – not just against foreigners, but even also against Japanese people who are not from Kansai.
Apherious on
This is the start of overall inflation. Foreign or not Japan is about to get expensive for everyone
KawaKurisu on
Bet they shit themselves when I go there with my Japanese husband and family and they don’t know what to do when confronted in Japanese by a Japanese person
TokyoLosAngeles on
I want to go there and purposely try to order in Japanese and yell at them and cause a scene. Fuck this place.
vnmslsrbms on
Yeah we were just in Okinawa and at a yakitori place, initially they gave us the Japanese menu so we saw the prices but then they gave us the English menu which was like 10 pct more
ShinkyuuVoices on
Japan is literally the country of “I literally hate everyone else so much id rather kill myself than even think about opening up to others.” In every sense of this phrase I just came up with.
PowerfulWind7230 on
Ask to see the gaijin card and charge cheaper. No gaijin card (zairyu) means tourist so pay higher prices. It’s fair cause the yen is so weak.
ryanyork92 on
こういうレベルの低いことを平気でする国になってほしくない。
notinterestedindonut on
Yea I think framing might the problem, because having a “local resident discount” or a point card that only locals use seems more ethical. This is just out and out racism it seems which there’s so much of it in Japan idk how you would even combat it.
Lord_Bentley on
Just do what I did! Buy a camping car (no hotels), buy foods at the grocery (for that local feel), cook in the camping car (no restaurants) and just chill by walking around in a new city! Nobody scamming me!
kakarukakaru on
Fking hilarious when kanji literally means han chinese characters
DaimonHans on
200 IQ solution: discount locals instead of upcharging foreigners 🤣🤣🤣
SeriousMannequin on
Wow they upcharge more than soapland does to foreigners.
>!As told to me by someone…!<
SuperLeverage on
How dare you foreigners learn to read Japanese (or even use Google translate)!
Cultural-Pattern-161 on
Just charge more fees at the airport and be done with it….
andres1ar on
A simple solution for all this BS would be:
Tonkotsu Ramen: 2000 yen
Other items in the menu: xxx yen
(At the bottom of the list, in Japanese) Residents 50% off
MemeL_rd on
Or OR OR…..
Instead of naming it as that, name it as a Japanese citizen discount and offer it at lower price to folks who have a MyNumber Card (or Japanese license) as a discount code on your register instead of this.
There are more sensible ways to do this people
ko-reanlla on
That Chinese tourist really did us a favour, they don’t play around when it comes to blatant scams
ImmediateVirus9864 on
Be upfront with the double pricing…india does this as well, but they are honest about it…..and in both cases the foreign and indian prices are written in clear english.
Foreigners won’t just run away if they need to pay 30% more than the Japanese.
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That is the absolute incorrect way to do dual-pricing. Of course that will fail. There’s also the right way that uses residency status as a differentiator which I support
Lol the tweet in the news article is saying a chinese person can read Kanji and found out about the double price system (english vs Japanese), therefore the guy is proposing to ban chinese tourists as a solution…
Dam god forbid other foreigners that can also read japanese.
If you want to do double pricing just be upfront about it? Why try to hide it then get mad when someone found out (then be like dam frigging foreigners’ fault again)?
Also why not just do by ID or something…? Anyone will feel it’s shady when its hidden based on menu language
It is not unusual (in the US) for a tourist attraction or local business to have a resident’s discount. It is usually quite local though (within the town or county) and not based on nationality.
They should just do what businesses in Hawaii do—offer kama aina (local resident) discounts. No one complains about that difference that I have ever seen or heard.
The difference between ‘local resident discounts’ and ‘higher prices for foreigners’ is the difference between rational fairness and xenophobia.
I looked up this restaurant and it appears that if you are a foreigner they will make you order on the screen in a language other than Japanese. I think even if you can read Japanese they will make you pay the foreigner price. As a resident who lives here and is fluent in Japanese, fuck this restaurant.
edit: read some more google reviews and if you are a foreigner who tries to order on the japanese screen a staff member will come over and yell at you to order in your native language
I will just get my wife to order for me.
Resident discount is the way to go for sure.
I would take one look at those prices on the English menu and know instantly they’re exorbitant for a chain restaurant and ask them in Japanese why they don’t have a Japanese menu 😆
#cancelthisshop
It’s racist at its core and a truly terrible idea. I’m a resident here, and I don’t want to deal with this shit ever fucking time I eat or go somewhere cuz „show your papers“
Racists and morons, did they think they could keep this a secret?
Can’t I just point to the kanji written item on the menu (with its associated price) and order it that way? Does the owner then lie and say we don’t have that in stock, or would he say “that item is not available to you because of how I perceive you”?
Why is the author’s title „Director of the International Casino Research Institute?“
Hm, there’s a cute mascot for everything.
I think that what’s needed here is a Bigot-chan mascot.
That way, there would be no need for pissing about with bigoted pricing for the strange foreigner man, or broadcasting their bigotry to the world.
No. Instead, they would simply have to purchase an official Bigot-chan sign from the ward office to display on their shop’s door.
That way, potential patrons would easily be able to tell that the business owner is a bigot, and take their business elsewhere.
Just do what some European places do.. Provide EU resident discount. Either provide discount for Japanese resident or local resident. But they should not do this for food / restaurants.
Some restaurants didn’t charge extra but simply gives you English menu with 4 items to choose from, while the Japanese menu has 30+ items 😂
Why can’t Japan just charge one of those tourist tax at the airport like other countries do..? To be honest, I want to visit Japan again but seeing this is really turning me off…
I’d pay to eat somewhere else just because of the principle. Hope this shop closes soon. FTP
“Foreigners should assimilate”. Foreigners learn language so can read the scams. “Not like that!”
If you have a separate price for foreigners, I’m not giving you my business.
I’m sorry, I’ve never had good experiences in Osaka. Many say those in Osaka are boisterous and direct (in a good way), but IMO many of them really are just rude and xenophobic – not just against foreigners, but even also against Japanese people who are not from Kansai.
This is the start of overall inflation. Foreign or not Japan is about to get expensive for everyone
Bet they shit themselves when I go there with my Japanese husband and family and they don’t know what to do when confronted in Japanese by a Japanese person
I want to go there and purposely try to order in Japanese and yell at them and cause a scene. Fuck this place.
Yeah we were just in Okinawa and at a yakitori place, initially they gave us the Japanese menu so we saw the prices but then they gave us the English menu which was like 10 pct more
Japan is literally the country of “I literally hate everyone else so much id rather kill myself than even think about opening up to others.” In every sense of this phrase I just came up with.
Ask to see the gaijin card and charge cheaper. No gaijin card (zairyu) means tourist so pay higher prices. It’s fair cause the yen is so weak.
こういうレベルの低いことを平気でする国になってほしくない。
Yea I think framing might the problem, because having a “local resident discount” or a point card that only locals use seems more ethical. This is just out and out racism it seems which there’s so much of it in Japan idk how you would even combat it.
Just do what I did! Buy a camping car (no hotels), buy foods at the grocery (for that local feel), cook in the camping car (no restaurants) and just chill by walking around in a new city! Nobody scamming me!
Fking hilarious when kanji literally means han chinese characters
200 IQ solution: discount locals instead of upcharging foreigners 🤣🤣🤣
Wow they upcharge more than soapland does to foreigners.
>!As told to me by someone…!<
How dare you foreigners learn to read Japanese (or even use Google translate)!
Just charge more fees at the airport and be done with it….
A simple solution for all this BS would be:
Tonkotsu Ramen: 2000 yen
Other items in the menu: xxx yen
(At the bottom of the list, in Japanese) Residents 50% off
Or OR OR…..
Instead of naming it as that, name it as a Japanese citizen discount and offer it at lower price to folks who have a MyNumber Card (or Japanese license) as a discount code on your register instead of this.
There are more sensible ways to do this people
That Chinese tourist really did us a favour, they don’t play around when it comes to blatant scams
Be upfront with the double pricing…india does this as well, but they are honest about it…..and in both cases the foreign and indian prices are written in clear english.
Foreigners won’t just run away if they need to pay 30% more than the Japanese.