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    Bevölkerung Griechenlands Türkei 1921 2020

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    1. KingKohishi on

      The extremely underpopulated Turkey in the first picture can be explained by:

      * The exclusion of Greeks from military service.
      * Turkish men dying in the non-stop wars with Austrian and Russian Empires since 17th century, the Balkan Wars and the WW1.

    2. reda84100 on

      Whats up with the greek turkish border being a lake and getting slowly reclaimed by greece

    7. Educational-Cry-1707 on

      Looking at the sizes of the countries, looks about right. If anything Turkey was underpopulated before.

    8. TheTyper1944 on

      Tbh only 51 million of turkish population are ethnic turks (i am even including non turkish turks like azerbajianis like myself) rest of it are minorities so its like 51 million vs 9.500 million greeks (but some of them might not have myscenian DNA such as pontians so they drop to 8 million)

    11. ur_a_jerk on

      consequences of state strategists being complicit with low brithrates

      greece is lucky turkey is in NATO

    13. Whole_Obligation_776 on

      -Earlier increase of education levels in Greece, leading to earlier drop of birthrate. Today the birthrates are almost the same if Turkey’s birthrate, Greece 1.3, Turkey 1.43.

      -We in Turkey didnt go through the horrors of WWII where a quarter of a population dying out of starvation and genocide. Greece unfortunately, did.

      -Similar to population booms, with healthcare and education rising in greece earlier they went through different scales of birthrates, in Turkey’s case general vaccination only gotten around in late 1970s, decreasing the child death rate of almost 40% in late 1950s to 1.4% under 2 decades.

      -One of these countries is in effect a fucking prison where if you were born there, you have a 99% chance of dying there. I mean the one that’s not in EU where people can’t travel freely, where they get every scrutiny, you can imagine, when a person needs to travel for 3 days. One of these countries in the post demand to see the birth sertificate from the other one for a 5 day long travel when they can travel to the other one by just appearing at its gates with an ID Card. It can cost half of your minimum wage to apply for a visa only to get rejected because the embassy workers dont work with standards but insted they work with quotas they want to fill in the rejection box. Turkey is not a country but a fate.

    14. luthmanfromMigori on

      Because Turkey encouraged all Turkic people to immigrate back from previous ottoman controlled areas to to the metropole. It wasn’t because of birth. Just Turks who lived abroad came back

    17. --Yurt-- on

      You all are overthinking it, Gay relationships dont make babies thats all theres to it

    19. fraserandrews on

      It’s not just that the Turkish have had more children, they had more generations of children. So they grew in absolute and relative size.

    20. skipping2hell on

      Since no one has pointed it out yet. Turkey avoided WWII, Greece was put through the meat grinder

    22. sovietarmyfan on

      If numbers are to be believed.

      I highly doubt it with the current government. I’ve been there. Looking around, driving around i just don’t believe the country has that many people.

    23. Little_Contact8783 on

      Don’t they know how to impregnate their women? Are they stupid?

    26. Gullible-Voter on

      1- Turkey avoided WW2

      2- Turkey received millions of immigrants from the surrounding countries and continues to do so

      3- Greece sent immigrants to US, etc.

      4- Turkey implemented low tax policy & incentives if a couple had 6 or more kids starting 1920s. With child death at around 50% this would have created a slower increase but developments in preventive medicine and country-wide better health care increased the odds of survical.

      5- Ottoman Empire left Anatolia in a devastated state. Extreme poverty, extreme ignorance, decimated youth population, intentionally cut off from the rest of the world for many generations, sunk into Islamic backwardness. For large portions of the country it may not be very different to what you would see in Afghanistan today. It took multiple generations to reach to todays HDI.

      6- HDI and per capita GDP were probably very different in 1920 (higher in Greece)

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