And yet Italy votes for parties that are pro Ukraine military aid more than Germany and France, says a lot about how public opinion can be used only just some times, and that the most important things are others.
Edit: it seems people think that sending aid is less important than what Mario Rossi, non voter, and mechanic in Rome (example) thinks of geopolitcs, downvoters.
LittleSchwein1234 on
And people are still hating on the UK and trying to justify their exclusion from SAFE…
The fact is, the UK has been the most steadfast supporter of Ukraine.
Nvrmnde on
Why not show Nordics and baltics and poland? They’re very high.
MrSpotgold on
Bad question. They should have asked if they cared to have to learn to speak, read and write Russian.
ledow on
The UK may have a lot of flaws but openly backing the underdog in times of war isn’t generally one of them.
AggravatingResist635 on
A quick skim does not reveal how victory is defined. If Ukraine is fighting for survival, then is surviving a victory for example.
Krneki_me_useki on
Is there something in particular that explains the large change in Spain?
Thorr_VonAsgard on
From belgium: I don’t care at all.
The question is more „When do this stops so they stop sending tons of money there and europe finaly sart thinking about their own ?“
Agamar13 on
Wtf is wrong with my countrymen. It’s mindblowing that UK seems to care more than Poland. Like, we’re in fucking danger of becoming a Russian sattelite again if Russia takes over Ukraine, we’d be militarizing and economy would suffer, our whole politics would switch to keeping Russia at bay and western europe won’t give a fuck because why would they, emigration will rise due to fear and worsening economy… How is that 35% of people don’t see that. Putting too much faith both in US and NATO (sorry guys, I’m a cynic, treaties get broken all the time and I have no faith that western europe and usa will be much more willing to send troops in case of Poland than they are in case of Ukraine). Edit: the commenter above me proves my thinking.
Wonderful-Lack3846 on
Russian propaganda is still strong unfortunately
Raja_Ampat on
only caring about their self interest.
A Follow up question should be “ how are we going to deal with the millions of refugees coming to our country, once Ukraine falls“.
Wolfsteron on
Ukraine will be victorious. Just as the UK in WWII. It’s the people not the pundit odds that count. They are smarter, stronger, more determined and more resourceful than putin’s fckd up pseudo-empire.
Beneficial_Vast_3540 on
What happened in Spain for it to jump up like that?
Mysterious-Emu4030 on
I feel shame at being French
pkk888 on
Wtf France – grow a pair!
roggahn on
Let’s correlate this with willingness to contribute.
dopaminedune on
I have spoken to those who don’t care.
They think Russia is not a threat to Europe and it is their private business.
We have our own problems to deal with and we have no reason to poke our nose and everything.
Most importantly, they think it’s an attempt from their own government to distract their minds from internal problems.
Sea-Technician1914 on
The EU just wants to use Ukraine as a meat shield to weaken Russia. They don’t really care if Ukraine wins or loses, they just don’t want to fight a war themselves.
docentmark on
Would be interesting to see the results for Netherlands.
No_Aesthetic on
I feel like some countries are missing
Gallico_Marina on
People weren’t sufficiently informed to realize an Ukrainian victory against the Russian invasion is by far the best option:
– We can’t let the Russian invasion army heal and turn their guns on the Baltic states which are integrated in the EU and have critical earth resources
– We invested so much in the Ukrainian army and local armament supply chain, this is a major asset for future deterence and to update our armies on the latest bang-for-buck weapons and logistics standards
– Ukraine is our modern-day Sudetenland: if we give them to Russian it’s a greenlight for China to grow its empire in the archipelagos and for Maga Turd Reich to colonize the Petroleo America
Adso996 on
On behalf of Italy and Italians, I’m sorry.
It’s hard to fight internal propaganda with such a level of ignorance.
Sadly history is going to repeat itself.
The true partisans that faught Nazis and Fascists were 0.5% of the total population at their peak (50.000 to 200.000 in ’45).
Considering how vile the average Italian is, 30% is a very good sign that consciousness hasn’t been completely lost afterall.
anders_hansson on
I know that this is going to be downvoted, but many of the questions/answers in the report are quite odd.
For instance, the notion of „victory“ or „win“ feels very 2022. AFAIK no serious analyst or strategist has even been talking about Ukrainian victory (Russia completely withdrawing from Ukraine, as YouGov defines it in their questions) for several years. The purpose of the support is not to bring victory, but to give Ukraine a strong position for negotiations.
Subsequently, *“care if Ukraine wins“* is not really a measure of support for Ukraine. A better measure would be *“support military and financial aid for Ukraine“* for instance.
And the question *“If a peace deal is agreed … Russia would launch another war against Ukraine in the next 10 years“* is really odd. Firstly, it does not really leave any other option than military Ukrainian victory, and it also depicts a peace deal as the most dangerous thing for Ukraine. And it’s also a fallacy, since the alternative (reject a peace deal and fight until victory?) would carry the same risk that Russia could launch another war against Ukraine in the next 10 years.
casian9 on
I see a correlation between how much „germanic“ is a country and its willingness for ukraine to win. But spain breaks the rule.
will_dormer on
what made Spain turn?
Jindujun on
Spain surprises me. The rest just fucking disappoints me. What a disgrace.
thenonoriginalname on
What does that even mean „win“ ? They have already lost Crimea 10y ago without any realistic hope to take it back and now they are losing all the Donbass. Will it be a win if the current peace proposal is accepted by the Russians? I just wish the Ukrainian to keep as much territories as possible and their freedom to candidate to eu. That would be a win.
Frosty-Comfort6699 on
so you’re saying Italy is a threat to europe?
multi_io on
Does the uptick halfway through that’s visible in all graphs correspond to Trump’s reelection? It also looks like there’s been two polls in quick succession there, whereas the other ones were further apart from each other and more evenly spaced in time.
TraditionalEqual8132 on
I care
TheDadThatGrills on
Why should the rest of the world believe Europe is a united front on the international stage when Europeans are showing this level of apathy? France beats their drums about being a leader of Europe but clearly over half the French don’t give a shit.
Pandanlard on
You can probably correlate this with international trade understanding and geopolitical knowledge in each of these countries.
whereismytralala on
This is surprisingly stable, I was expecting way worst.
Maetivet on
To be fair to Italy, they’re probably just waiting to see which side looks like they’ll win, before they declare their position.
Evening-Web-3038 on
It’s coming home! Ukraine is coming home!
MinaZata on
So France, Italy…. Wtf?
Standard_Prune_2195 on
Ukraine wins? lets be honest, it about if ukraine still exists after war or not. There’s NO winning scenario for Ukraine and we all know this,
Leather-Ad1877 on
Spain is interesting
Dr_Hull on
Funny how the figure gives the impression that support of Ukraine is becoming smaller simply because of the way the countries are arranged. A random ordering would have given a more mixed impression, and showing the countries in the reverse order would have given the impression of growing support.
While it is clear that each subgraph is one country the overall impression of the graph doesn’t seem to be supported by the subgraphs.
It is bordering on a case of how to lie with a graph
Zealousideal-Yak3845 on
Anyone know why Britain is so pro war?
zimon85 on
As an Italian I wonder what the hell is wrong with my people. If you watch any talk show it’s full of pundits regurgitating russian propaganda
Prometheides on
And this is after being constantly bombarded by a huge media campaign
One-Bit5717 on
Italy gave up ONE ship to Soviet RuZZia after the second World War. Guess they think that putler will spare them if he has a chance
Saintgein on
It’s still a feud between Russia and Ukraine. Meanwhile they try to make us believe it’s about the whole of Europe. Which is not the case. Most people know this. This is no football match at least.
TheoryOfDevolution on
Support for Ukraine has always been low in Italy and cratered after the energy spikes in 2022. The older generation here really don’t care for Ukraine.
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full report https://xcancel.com/YouGov/status/2006378244052828251
And yet Italy votes for parties that are pro Ukraine military aid more than Germany and France, says a lot about how public opinion can be used only just some times, and that the most important things are others.
Edit: it seems people think that sending aid is less important than what Mario Rossi, non voter, and mechanic in Rome (example) thinks of geopolitcs, downvoters.
And people are still hating on the UK and trying to justify their exclusion from SAFE…
The fact is, the UK has been the most steadfast supporter of Ukraine.
Why not show Nordics and baltics and poland? They’re very high.
Bad question. They should have asked if they cared to have to learn to speak, read and write Russian.
The UK may have a lot of flaws but openly backing the underdog in times of war isn’t generally one of them.
A quick skim does not reveal how victory is defined. If Ukraine is fighting for survival, then is surviving a victory for example.
Is there something in particular that explains the large change in Spain?
From belgium: I don’t care at all.
The question is more „When do this stops so they stop sending tons of money there and europe finaly sart thinking about their own ?“
Wtf is wrong with my countrymen. It’s mindblowing that UK seems to care more than Poland. Like, we’re in fucking danger of becoming a Russian sattelite again if Russia takes over Ukraine, we’d be militarizing and economy would suffer, our whole politics would switch to keeping Russia at bay and western europe won’t give a fuck because why would they, emigration will rise due to fear and worsening economy… How is that 35% of people don’t see that. Putting too much faith both in US and NATO (sorry guys, I’m a cynic, treaties get broken all the time and I have no faith that western europe and usa will be much more willing to send troops in case of Poland than they are in case of Ukraine). Edit: the commenter above me proves my thinking.
Russian propaganda is still strong unfortunately
only caring about their self interest.
A Follow up question should be “ how are we going to deal with the millions of refugees coming to our country, once Ukraine falls“.
Ukraine will be victorious. Just as the UK in WWII. It’s the people not the pundit odds that count. They are smarter, stronger, more determined and more resourceful than putin’s fckd up pseudo-empire.
What happened in Spain for it to jump up like that?
I feel shame at being French
Wtf France – grow a pair!
Let’s correlate this with willingness to contribute.
I have spoken to those who don’t care.
They think Russia is not a threat to Europe and it is their private business.
We have our own problems to deal with and we have no reason to poke our nose and everything.
Most importantly, they think it’s an attempt from their own government to distract their minds from internal problems.
The EU just wants to use Ukraine as a meat shield to weaken Russia. They don’t really care if Ukraine wins or loses, they just don’t want to fight a war themselves.
Would be interesting to see the results for Netherlands.
I feel like some countries are missing
People weren’t sufficiently informed to realize an Ukrainian victory against the Russian invasion is by far the best option:
– We can’t let the Russian invasion army heal and turn their guns on the Baltic states which are integrated in the EU and have critical earth resources
– We invested so much in the Ukrainian army and local armament supply chain, this is a major asset for future deterence and to update our armies on the latest bang-for-buck weapons and logistics standards
– Ukraine is our modern-day Sudetenland: if we give them to Russian it’s a greenlight for China to grow its empire in the archipelagos and for Maga Turd Reich to colonize the Petroleo America
On behalf of Italy and Italians, I’m sorry.
It’s hard to fight internal propaganda with such a level of ignorance.
Sadly history is going to repeat itself.
The true partisans that faught Nazis and Fascists were 0.5% of the total population at their peak (50.000 to 200.000 in ’45).
Considering how vile the average Italian is, 30% is a very good sign that consciousness hasn’t been completely lost afterall.
I know that this is going to be downvoted, but many of the questions/answers in the report are quite odd.
For instance, the notion of „victory“ or „win“ feels very 2022. AFAIK no serious analyst or strategist has even been talking about Ukrainian victory (Russia completely withdrawing from Ukraine, as YouGov defines it in their questions) for several years. The purpose of the support is not to bring victory, but to give Ukraine a strong position for negotiations.
Subsequently, *“care if Ukraine wins“* is not really a measure of support for Ukraine. A better measure would be *“support military and financial aid for Ukraine“* for instance.
And the question *“If a peace deal is agreed … Russia would launch another war against Ukraine in the next 10 years“* is really odd. Firstly, it does not really leave any other option than military Ukrainian victory, and it also depicts a peace deal as the most dangerous thing for Ukraine. And it’s also a fallacy, since the alternative (reject a peace deal and fight until victory?) would carry the same risk that Russia could launch another war against Ukraine in the next 10 years.
I see a correlation between how much „germanic“ is a country and its willingness for ukraine to win. But spain breaks the rule.
what made Spain turn?
Spain surprises me. The rest just fucking disappoints me. What a disgrace.
What does that even mean „win“ ? They have already lost Crimea 10y ago without any realistic hope to take it back and now they are losing all the Donbass. Will it be a win if the current peace proposal is accepted by the Russians? I just wish the Ukrainian to keep as much territories as possible and their freedom to candidate to eu. That would be a win.
so you’re saying Italy is a threat to europe?
Does the uptick halfway through that’s visible in all graphs correspond to Trump’s reelection? It also looks like there’s been two polls in quick succession there, whereas the other ones were further apart from each other and more evenly spaced in time.
I care
Why should the rest of the world believe Europe is a united front on the international stage when Europeans are showing this level of apathy? France beats their drums about being a leader of Europe but clearly over half the French don’t give a shit.
You can probably correlate this with international trade understanding and geopolitical knowledge in each of these countries.
This is surprisingly stable, I was expecting way worst.
To be fair to Italy, they’re probably just waiting to see which side looks like they’ll win, before they declare their position.
It’s coming home! Ukraine is coming home!
So France, Italy…. Wtf?
Ukraine wins? lets be honest, it about if ukraine still exists after war or not. There’s NO winning scenario for Ukraine and we all know this,
Spain is interesting
Funny how the figure gives the impression that support of Ukraine is becoming smaller simply because of the way the countries are arranged. A random ordering would have given a more mixed impression, and showing the countries in the reverse order would have given the impression of growing support.
While it is clear that each subgraph is one country the overall impression of the graph doesn’t seem to be supported by the subgraphs.
It is bordering on a case of how to lie with a graph
Anyone know why Britain is so pro war?
As an Italian I wonder what the hell is wrong with my people. If you watch any talk show it’s full of pundits regurgitating russian propaganda
And this is after being constantly bombarded by a huge media campaign
Italy gave up ONE ship to Soviet RuZZia after the second World War. Guess they think that putler will spare them if he has a chance
It’s still a feud between Russia and Ukraine. Meanwhile they try to make us believe it’s about the whole of Europe. Which is not the case. Most people know this. This is no football match at least.
Support for Ukraine has always been low in Italy and cratered after the energy spikes in 2022. The older generation here really don’t care for Ukraine.