Großbritannien braucht ein neues Verteidigungspakt mit Europa, da befürchtet wird, dass Trump es nicht vor Angriffen schützen wird. Umfragen zeigen, dass britische Wähler besorgt sind, dass die USA Großbritannien im Falle eines Angriffs Putins möglicherweise nicht zu Hilfe kommen könnten

Slight headline editorialisation – inserting country and attaching part of the byline to emphasise which national voting bloc for international readers.

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> #Britain should join forces with Europe in a new defence pact because it can no longer trust Donald Trump’s America to defend it in the event of a military attack by Russia, voters believe.
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> That is the stark outcome of a survey by The Independent to gauge the public’s reaction to dramatic changes in US foreign policy under Mr Trump and increasing hostility to Europe – including Britain – from Russia’s Vladimir Putin.

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> A total of 55 per cent of British voters want a new UK/Europe defence alliance – without America – to guard against the threat from Putin, according to the JL Partners poll, while only 11 per cent oppose this plan.
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> Such a move would mark a historic shift in defence policy with major diplomatic implications.
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> Currently, the defence of Britain and Europe against the threat of attack depends on Nato, which was set up by European nations and the US in 1949 in the aftermath of the Second World War.

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> Under Nato’s cornerstone Article 5, an attack on any member is treated as an attack on all. In practice, that pledge is underpinned by the huge military firepower of its biggest member, the US.
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> However, America’s own commitment to Nato has come under question since the re-election of President Trump last year and his stance on the Russia-Ukraine conflict.
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> Mr Trump has called European countries “weak”, repeatedly criticised them for not spending enough money on defence, and even threatened to ignore his Nato vow to defend them for not doing so if they are attacked.
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> In addition, Mr Trump has been accused by some of siding with Russia – not Europe – in its war with Ukraine.
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> He has promised to offer Ukraine Nato-style “Article 5-like” protection from further Russian attacks in the event of a ceasefire, but his refusal to go further has led some to question its value.
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> In fact, the only time Nato’s Article 5 has been triggered was in defence of the US after the 9/11 attacks in 2001.

> In recent weeks a series of major European figures have raised the alarm on this issue.
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> Nato secretary general Mark Rutte warned its members to start ramping up preparations “for the scale of war our grandparents or great-grandparents endured”.
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> His comments were echoed by the new head of MI6, Blaise Metreweli, who highlighted the growing menace from Russia, which she said was “testing us in the grey zone with tactics that are just below the threshold of war”, while defence minister Al Carns said the “shadow of war is knocking on Europe’s door”.
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> Their comments reflect fears that Putin could follow his invasion of Ukraine with a new attack on Europe, such as the Baltic states.
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> Russia has violated European airspace with fighter jets and drones, as well as carrying out cyber attacks and acts of sabotage.
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> European countries already collaborate on defence issues via a number of organisations, such as the UK-led Joint Expeditionary Force, to guard against the threat from Russia in Norway and northern Europe.
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> Furthermore, European nations are currently increasing their defence spending.
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> But it will be many years before they are capable of defending themselves without relying on the US.
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> James Johnson, of JL Partners, said: “The radical change in views on foreign policy from Donald Trump’s White House appears to have taken its toll on British voters.
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> “Judging from our survey, voters have lost faith in the belief that if Britain or any of its European neighbours faces a real military threat, America will automatically come to its rescue.
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> “They think Europe should take control of its own military protection to guarantee its safety.”
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Tell that to fucking Macron. I’m tired of EU members abusing the veto to sabotage the EU in favour of national interests (or in the case of Orbán, interests of an adversary)

There is [already a defence pact](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/uk-eu-security-and-defence-partnership) between the EU and UK

We have the Joint Expeditionary Force which is specific to Northern Europe.

We also need to beef up our own naval fleet but great progress is made on that already.

But really we’re probably THE best defended and geographically safest country in Europe, we’re the last country that would need others to come to its defence. A population of 70 million on a sizeable island is an extremely formidable adversary.

Trump wont help, he had been ordered not to.

I wonder how many fish we’re going to have to cough up for the privilege this time. 

In exchange for fishing rights.

Realistically, what could Russia do against Britain, even without allies? They don’t have a fleet to speak of. Their air force is capable of bombing Ukraine, but Britain is much further away and has better air defenses. Their conventional forces are useless without a landing operation, which would be suicide without a navy and air superiority. They could use nuclear weapons and trade London for st Petersburg and Moscow, but that’s not in their interest either.

All it would come down to is harassing shipping and the occasional missile attack.

> UK voters are concerned the US may not come to Britain’s aid in the event of an attack by Putin

Well, they should be. We all know how Trump works. We all know that if there is an attack he will not just help, he will see it as a great opportunity to blackmail your country into something beneficial for him.

LOL trump wont even defend americans.

What attack? Another novichok poisoning, nuclear war, what? The Russians don’t have the capability to attack the UK in any meaningful way without getting buckets of sunshine back, which is why they concentrate on hacking, cybercrime and propaganda.

We have our own nuclear deterrent. If the US didn’t come to its most staunch allies call after invoking Article 5 then NATO ceases to exist and the damage to the reputation of the US would be unfixable – they could never be trusted again.

European countries in NATO would have to help and vice-a-versa.

Don’t trust Donnie dementia

I don’t remember how many nuclear submarines the UK has ?

Trump has been downplaying NATO all year. It would be stupid for anyone to not be concerned

Have you been to Britain? Nobodys invading that shit. Legit everyone is leaving. Lol