Laut Studie steigt die Zahl der Menschen, die sagen, Briten müssten „geborene Briten“ sein
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/dec/29/number-people-britons-must-be-born-in-uk-rising-study?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Von topotaul
Laut Studie steigt die Zahl der Menschen, die sagen, Briten müssten „geborene Briten“ sein
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/dec/29/number-people-britons-must-be-born-in-uk-rising-study?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Von topotaul
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Kind of stupid though, if your parents were abroad when you were born then came back the following week, does that make you not British?
It’s that subjective it’s a little pointless.
I wonder what the crossover is with people who voted for a foreign born PM in 2019 to get Brexit done?
Really strange that this is rising in an environment where large parts of the media are promoting borderline racist policy and politicians. I wonder why it’s happening.
In case anyone was wondering why this is suddenly a thing, people seem to have just worked out that if you replace ‘race’ with ‘culture’ you can whine about anything and say all the quiet parts out loud.
There are people who’ve been here for decades who don’t speak or read English, they stay in their monoculture that isn’t British and live a life that mimics their society back home.
What does it even mean to be British if it’s nothing more than a geo-tag to say you existed here for a little while and that’s all.
Some are born British, some achieve Britishness and some have Britishness thrust upon them.
(The last category is generally people who win a sporting event and are proudly hailed as British by the tabloids for the first time.)
There is a shift occurring it seems and this is just the tip of the iceberg. I’ve been seeing a big rise online in ethnonationalists that are not at all afraid of espousing their views, especially in Gen Z
I’m sure a chap with a funny mustache once wrote the same same thing about Germans and Germany a while ago.
What does being born British mean? I was born here, first in my family, my parents came here from Ireland in 1984. Am I allowed to be British?
Cool, let’s deport the entire Royal Family. They are french after all.
Also, I think Ireland might have an opinion on this matter that would get us all in Trouble.
Seen many redditors say an immigrant can become British but can never fully become ‚English‘, and now you have people saying they can never fully become British either.
Multiculturalism is bad, but also fuck you, you aren’t one of us.
So Farage is being deported as he is of immigrant descent?
Na, what they mean is „born white“
We all know this
Racial tensions is one thing but people often don’t account for the amount of immigrants that want the drawbridge drawn up behind them.
I don’t think anybody actually cares IRL.
We’re one of the most multicultural islands on the planet.
Do you think these racists spend the week trying to kick people out the country then settle down at the weekend to watch football with all our homegrown white players?
The number of people who say Britons must be “born British” is rising because xenophobia, racism and far-right hatred is on the rise and become mainstream.
Arseholes like Griffin, Yaxley-Lennon and Farage popularised hatred, and by failing to challenge it the current government is enabling it.
It seems a bit of a weird question to me. You’re British if you have citizenship, as far as I’m concerned, or arguably if you don’t have citizenship but you ‘feel British.’ The ‘shared values’ thing is just silly – I’m sure plenty of Germans (for example) have similar values to a lot of British people, but they’re still German.
That’s bullshit you literally can’t help where you were born and in my opinion as long as you have at least one British parent prior to your birth you would automatically be British, end of story
So the UK will be adopting USA styled madness #sad. The economy is already shite because of Brexit and this will push the country into oblivion.
Why do some people think the geographical location of the vagina from which you emerged should define you as a person and set out your whole life’s opportunities?
Furthermore, how do they see Kemi Badenoch?
If I get a blood transfusion from an Anglo Saxon, do I become British? If not, does DNA play a role, how many generations have to pass for someone to be British? I would like to know how these things are defined.
Asking for a friend.
I grew up in a working class Labour voting town up north and these sorts of sentiments have always been around. Reform are just the first party wholeheartedly to express these sentiments publicly. The Tories always contained, historically, a more worldly middle class element to the party, affluent folk tend to be minded like that. Reform are a right wing party that doesn’t have that middle class, successful, worldly posh element to it at all. It can appeal directly to a part of, largely white, Britain that both Labour and the Tories have always had to compromise with to keep their more middle class, cosmopolitan supporters comfortable. The advantage Reform have is all the voters that are a bit more cosmopolitan minded are split between lots of different parties. While Reform unites the more white nativist vote together under one banner.
I’m not British but I partially understand the statement and I think it’s a polarised statement against the feeling that anyone can have a British passport without speaking English or knowing anything about the country they have citizenship for. Of course this is a very badly informed statement considering UK requires tests and has rules with regards to citizenship.
I think what lacks space these days is for discussion around if the rules are fitting the purpose or if they need improvements. Since people don’t feel empowered via their representatives to address their concerns they move to the simple clean mostly irrational statements (the so call far right – in this case).
In essence, and without operationalising, people should preserve their own identity. People without identity forget who they are, and soon forget why they endure. Descriptively, this doesn’t mean doors must be closed to people born abroad but maybe you should question if people joining in are coming to join the big picture and what value are they bringing in.
British and Britons are not synonyms
Britons pertains to an Island, British is in association with the ruling by British government.
Nobody is „Born British“ they are born, then a birth certificate is issued giving ownership of the entity to the British Government and they become a British citizen.
Anyone can choose to become a British citizen, the only difference is that newly born babies have no way to consent to such a thing, so they never had a choice.
Isnt it more a reaction to people’s perception that the system is being exploited and comes with various loopholes?
That’s me out then! Born abroad to British parents, came to the UK before I was two, and raised in the UK. But apparently I’m not British to a large proportion of the population.
But, I bet good money if I talked to any of them, they would say that of course I’m British and it doesn’t really count that I was born abroad. Because it’s not really about place of birth. It’s about *other* characteristics.