This is even more worthless then NATO, USA wont protect shit in EU. That much was made clear.
ElectroRice on
Just enough to extract the minerals and throw them under the bus again.
Dockers4flag2035orB4 on
Don’t take the deal.
I wouldn’t trust the USA for 15minutes with Trump in charge.
north_by_nw_to on
Where did this idea come from, a hot water heater rental?
RidetheSchlange on
Didn’t Ukraine already have security guarantees that turned out to be fake and have forever changed the face of nuclear non-proliferation initiatives? You mean that agreement which is now sparking the beginning of nuclear armament?
Royal-Hunter3892 on
There is in no way US would fight with Russia for Ukraine, heck it’s not even willing to fight Russia for its European NATO members.
TrueLegateDamar on
Experience shows the Cheeto’s guarantees guarantee nothing.
G_UK on
A guarantee from America is about as much use as a marzipan dildo.
ZanzerFineSuits on
The US aalready betrayed Ukraine once* when we didn’t support their security in exchange for giving up their nukes.
*in addition to all the petty betrayals since Trump got in office.
billionaire_leech on
These meetings are useless. Trumps guarantees are recognised globally as completely meaningless. And what the fuck was Junk doing giving Putin a two-hour briefing prior to Zelensky’s arrival.
He should be in hand-cuffs with his pants pulled down live on camera.
P01135809-Trump on
Does this come with the same levels of protection they offered when you gave up your nuclear weapons?
snower88 on
I think I would be an idiot to take this offer
One-Bit5717 on
Did they not offer security guarantees when Ukraine gave up the nukes? How did that turn out?
mekanub on
Only a fool would trust Trump
Only a fool would trust Putin
To trust both of them, you would have to be absolutely fucking brain dead,
SenseiKingPong on
Don’t trust what Donnie says
postusa2 on
The problem is obviously being previewed at the same time: the Trump administration will side with Putins account rather than go to war. Thought this war going back to Crimea and MH17, Putin just smiles and denies. So it will continue with the extra weight that Trump will blame Ukraine for any future attack.
Comfortable_Owl9363 on
Shouldn’t they be throwing the idea of a peace plan to Russia since they are the aggressor?
HuntsWithRocks on
Didn’t Ukraine commit to nuclear disarmament for a similar deal with USA back in the 90s?
torklugnutz on
15 sounds like 50 if you have an accent sometimes.
postusa2 on
Here’s a little preview… the deal is signed, and a week later a kinzhal smashes into a market killing 20 people. Does Trump go to war, or accept Putins account when he smiles and says „wasn’t me!“
SuperRektT on
Another month of nothingburger coming to an end
Really-Efficient on
Details are said to be established and revealed in January in France when European leaders, Zelensky and Trump meet, so I guess we’ll see then how valuable these are.
InternationalAgent48 on
Budapest 1994 all over again
Objective_Mousse7216 on
DO NOT TRUST TRUMP!
retecsin on
Infamous „I have the best betrayals“ quote incoming
Icy-Subject6932 on
What would Trump say, I am curious
mr_evilweed on
The same Trump who had pulled the US out of like 5 major international agreements including some he himself negotiated?
Arturo-oc on
Don’t trust the Americans.
linkardtankard on
Did Zelenskyy forget that US already vowed to protect Ukraine under the Budapest memorandum? /s
Tobax on
So Russia invades again after 15 years
Sbrubbles on
„security guarantees“ without nato country boots on the ground is worthless, as has already been show.
The only way to know for sure Trump or a future american president wont back down from a security guarantee is to make sure some American soldier dies in the first salvo of russian aggression. Same as US presence in Poland, really
SXOSXO on
Plenty of time for Russia to rebuild its armed forces.
Avibuel on
American guarantees are meaningless, dont fall for the bait man
Ecstatic-Detail-8382 on
Oh good. A guarantee from Donald Trump. Worth less than the paper it’s written on.
Drivingfinger on
It’s going to take longer than that to rebuild.
Big_Lab_Jagr on
Consider Trump’s track record of honoring the deals he himself made during his first term. Don’t bother negotiating with Trump.
Thin_Explorer_3724 on
Just like the last time? See how useful that was.
germane_switch on
So Putin can violate the peace deal knowing that the Trump admin will do not a goddamned thing about it?
kiyomoris on
It’s a trap. USA needs this war to go on in order to sell their equipment to EU.
Trump has been bragging about making EU paying full price for their high-end defence equipment.
Fair_Travel515 on
Who exactly is the US to give ANY kind of guarantee? They have never been weaker in all of American history than they are right now.
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This is even more worthless then NATO, USA wont protect shit in EU. That much was made clear.
Just enough to extract the minerals and throw them under the bus again.
Don’t take the deal.
I wouldn’t trust the USA for 15minutes with Trump in charge.
Where did this idea come from, a hot water heater rental?
Didn’t Ukraine already have security guarantees that turned out to be fake and have forever changed the face of nuclear non-proliferation initiatives? You mean that agreement which is now sparking the beginning of nuclear armament?
There is in no way US would fight with Russia for Ukraine, heck it’s not even willing to fight Russia for its European NATO members.
Experience shows the Cheeto’s guarantees guarantee nothing.
A guarantee from America is about as much use as a marzipan dildo.
The US aalready betrayed Ukraine once* when we didn’t support their security in exchange for giving up their nukes.
*in addition to all the petty betrayals since Trump got in office.
These meetings are useless. Trumps guarantees are recognised globally as completely meaningless. And what the fuck was Junk doing giving Putin a two-hour briefing prior to Zelensky’s arrival.
He should be in hand-cuffs with his pants pulled down live on camera.
Does this come with the same levels of protection they offered when you gave up your nuclear weapons?
I think I would be an idiot to take this offer
Did they not offer security guarantees when Ukraine gave up the nukes? How did that turn out?
Only a fool would trust Trump
Only a fool would trust Putin
To trust both of them, you would have to be absolutely fucking brain dead,
Don’t trust what Donnie says
The problem is obviously being previewed at the same time: the Trump administration will side with Putins account rather than go to war. Thought this war going back to Crimea and MH17, Putin just smiles and denies. So it will continue with the extra weight that Trump will blame Ukraine for any future attack.
Shouldn’t they be throwing the idea of a peace plan to Russia since they are the aggressor?
Didn’t Ukraine commit to nuclear disarmament for a similar deal with USA back in the 90s?
15 sounds like 50 if you have an accent sometimes.
Here’s a little preview… the deal is signed, and a week later a kinzhal smashes into a market killing 20 people. Does Trump go to war, or accept Putins account when he smiles and says „wasn’t me!“
Another month of nothingburger coming to an end
Details are said to be established and revealed in January in France when European leaders, Zelensky and Trump meet, so I guess we’ll see then how valuable these are.
Budapest 1994 all over again
DO NOT TRUST TRUMP!
Infamous „I have the best betrayals“ quote incoming
What would Trump say, I am curious
The same Trump who had pulled the US out of like 5 major international agreements including some he himself negotiated?
Don’t trust the Americans.
Did Zelenskyy forget that US already vowed to protect Ukraine under the Budapest memorandum? /s
So Russia invades again after 15 years
„security guarantees“ without nato country boots on the ground is worthless, as has already been show.
The only way to know for sure Trump or a future american president wont back down from a security guarantee is to make sure some American soldier dies in the first salvo of russian aggression. Same as US presence in Poland, really
Plenty of time for Russia to rebuild its armed forces.
American guarantees are meaningless, dont fall for the bait man
Oh good. A guarantee from Donald Trump. Worth less than the paper it’s written on.
It’s going to take longer than that to rebuild.
Consider Trump’s track record of honoring the deals he himself made during his first term. Don’t bother negotiating with Trump.
Just like the last time? See how useful that was.
So Putin can violate the peace deal knowing that the Trump admin will do not a goddamned thing about it?
It’s a trap. USA needs this war to go on in order to sell their equipment to EU.
Trump has been bragging about making EU paying full price for their high-end defence equipment.
Who exactly is the US to give ANY kind of guarantee? They have never been weaker in all of American history than they are right now.