Feels like politics stopped knocking at the door and just moved into the living room without asking.
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xSalvatore_ on
The Guardian has been writing about every minor far right party in Europe for 20 years. Regardless of their obscurity or reach. Few have done more to promote the far right in the English speaking world. The Guardian has a far right fetish.
Major_Wayland on
Start solving the root problems that makes people listen to populists, and far-right popularity would disappear just as fast. Pointing fingers is not a solution.
Andreas1120 on
The further left, the left goes the more it cedes the center to the right. Recent polling indicates that more people think the left is „too liberal“ than the right „too conservative“. And before you start foaming at the mouth. I am merely reporting some facts not saying I approve one way or another.
Kyrez77 on
*checks the author*
Yup, not surprised.
Whatduheckiz on
Extremism, whether far right or far left, will always arise if the government stops serving the interest of the people.
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Erakko on
People are unhappy. That leads to a rise of a counter force to the current political forces.
Find out why people are unhappy and fix that and the far right problem is solved.
Rude_Opportunity6053 on
This is very easy to stop the far-right. Everyone would already be happy if we stop importing people from the worst countries in the world. I was a leftist before it becomes too much and many other people are fed up now, we don’t want our countries to become London, Brussels, or Paris. We worked so hard to build what we have… it is such a waste. You have to be sadomaso or completely brainwashed to think what happens is normal in France, UK, Italy, Germany, Austria, Belgium, Sweden.. What’s frightening is that even ‚far-right‘ politics are allowing this immigration issue like Italy.
NaCl_Sailor on
duhh, just look at the last 10 years and tell me it wasn’t obviously coming
Nick_Strong on
People like easy solutions, and that’s why the far right is on the rise. The far right doesn’t have to be nuanced. They can openly say, „We will ban all immigration, ban LGBT ‚propaganda,‘ end all aid to Ukraine,“ and immediately gain a large following. Radical solutions are easy to sell because people’s basic reaction to anything they don’t like is complete rejection.
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ThoricFromMoonRunner on
It’s mystifying how Europeans can be so blind to the fact that the newcomers are Supremacists? Far more conservative and supremacist than any “far right” party in Europe.
BaritBrit on
„Politics“ has been an increasingly large part of everyday life and culture for 30-odd years. It’s only frightening the Guardian now because the wrong kind of politics is joining the party.
SurroundTiny on
The only example they can come up with was from 15 years ago? That’s the evidence supporting the article?
redderrida on
Europe is at war. The far right and to some extent the far left has been weaponized against democracy by Putler, Trump and others interested in the collapse of the EU. They are not even subtle about it. The AfD, Le Penn, Orbán, Fico and others are all serving their Russian overlords, spreading Kremlin propaganda to their populations like no tomorrow.
AllThingsBeginWithNu on
You could just try to control immigration
elmo298 on
Well yeah, you have a world full of megacorp algorithms trying to make you scared, angry and addicted to their content. Funnily enough that will breed far right extremism
dumnezero on
Nazis are not and will never be vegan. They might be on a plant-based diet, but that’s a different idea.
Fascists always infiltrate and try to copy and take over nice things. They don’t have theory or ideology to be persuasive intellectually, they can only imitate what’s popular to sneak by, to recruit, and to grow. If the stupidity and psychopathy of fascists was made transparent, they would remain obscure, so this is the ***the default*** for fascism. All they have is fantasy and bullshit, all deceit.
As for „trad“, that is not fascist appropriation, that is the grandparent of fascism. The pre-modern life and culture represent the social order desired by fascists. Even a century ago, Nazis were famously obsessed with medieval „knights“ and bloodlines. More modern bullshit includes „aliens“ (ancient too) and „star seeds“ and „Atlantis“ as part of the mythology of bloodlines; not as fascism, but fascism building blocks to show who is „superior“ and who isn’t (and who should be eliminated).
>Previously, however, their strength in doing so relied on the talent pool of their members, as musicians, artists and camera operators were needed to create content. With the advent of generative AI, this is no longer the case.
Yep. AI generation is a tool for scamming, for deceit, for manipulation. It’s a perfect fit for fascists.
Skyswimsky on
`So-called “tradwives”, referring to female content creators who promote traditional gender roles on social media, are another example.`
This is from the article. Since when is promoting traditional gender roles considered far right?
Nephnil on
Far right this far right that. Everything is far and right nowadays.
NoRecipe3350 on
While I would more or less agree, the Guardian is a very biased and ideological on some things. They’re very critical of anything that doesn’t fit their middle class/privileged/wealthy centre left biases.
driftingwood2018 on
Look at how well it’s worked out for America. They’ve been in brain rot for last 15 years
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First-Egg-713 on
Its a counter to all the leftism of last decade. Thats kinda how it works, if you move the pendulum one way it goes back the other way.
Thats why you keep it in the fuking centre lmao…
haroldthehampster on
the sock puppets in this thread are out in force
Fun-Will5719 on
They should be more concerned in solving problems so people would not vote for right wingers.
Chemical-Skill-126 on
Unamed band got a top 40 song in Hungary. 2 guys in 2014 wore nazi symbols. The proof is undeniable.
LarryJacklin on
Has it already been too long since the WW2 and people don’t remember anymore? Unfortunately the left is also accelerating this with for example super loose and problem causing immigration policy.
amora_obscura on
People are more willing to entertain views that validate existing prejudices, rather than challenge them, and they will be eager to hear how those views are the source of all their problems. Social media and the lack of accountability for misinformation makes this problem exponentially worse.
nezaposlen on
if you can be convinced something is true, it becomes real to you, reality is subjective and if you’re stubborn enough everything that challenges your worldview becomes your word versus their word.
we live in a post-truth world where the things that actually happen don’t matter. the conservative and far-right thrives because of being expert at making up scenarios.
convince a small amount of people that something is true and it spreads, but in „democracy“ convincing people that something is true automatically makes it true
digiorno on
The rich have worked incredibly hard to make this happen.
ViperHQ on
The 24h news cycle and lack of fact checking is honestly to blaim.
Every rando can now spew sources out of their own ass or give super misleading info on any topic online which blows up on Twitter or whatever other social media and there is 0 to none pushback.
Icey1337 on
Well lately its been Americas plan to make Europe as racist as possible, as it was literally stated on the security 2025 document, so I’m not very surprised. Its in their best interest to get as many EU countries to quit.
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Feels like politics stopped knocking at the door and just moved into the living room without asking.
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The Guardian has been writing about every minor far right party in Europe for 20 years. Regardless of their obscurity or reach. Few have done more to promote the far right in the English speaking world. The Guardian has a far right fetish.
Start solving the root problems that makes people listen to populists, and far-right popularity would disappear just as fast. Pointing fingers is not a solution.
The further left, the left goes the more it cedes the center to the right. Recent polling indicates that more people think the left is „too liberal“ than the right „too conservative“. And before you start foaming at the mouth. I am merely reporting some facts not saying I approve one way or another.
*checks the author*
Yup, not surprised.
Extremism, whether far right or far left, will always arise if the government stops serving the interest of the people.
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People are unhappy. That leads to a rise of a counter force to the current political forces.
Find out why people are unhappy and fix that and the far right problem is solved.
This is very easy to stop the far-right. Everyone would already be happy if we stop importing people from the worst countries in the world. I was a leftist before it becomes too much and many other people are fed up now, we don’t want our countries to become London, Brussels, or Paris. We worked so hard to build what we have… it is such a waste. You have to be sadomaso or completely brainwashed to think what happens is normal in France, UK, Italy, Germany, Austria, Belgium, Sweden.. What’s frightening is that even ‚far-right‘ politics are allowing this immigration issue like Italy.
duhh, just look at the last 10 years and tell me it wasn’t obviously coming
People like easy solutions, and that’s why the far right is on the rise. The far right doesn’t have to be nuanced. They can openly say, „We will ban all immigration, ban LGBT ‚propaganda,‘ end all aid to Ukraine,“ and immediately gain a large following. Radical solutions are easy to sell because people’s basic reaction to anything they don’t like is complete rejection.
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It’s mystifying how Europeans can be so blind to the fact that the newcomers are Supremacists? Far more conservative and supremacist than any “far right” party in Europe.
„Politics“ has been an increasingly large part of everyday life and culture for 30-odd years. It’s only frightening the Guardian now because the wrong kind of politics is joining the party.
The only example they can come up with was from 15 years ago? That’s the evidence supporting the article?
Europe is at war. The far right and to some extent the far left has been weaponized against democracy by Putler, Trump and others interested in the collapse of the EU. They are not even subtle about it. The AfD, Le Penn, Orbán, Fico and others are all serving their Russian overlords, spreading Kremlin propaganda to their populations like no tomorrow.
You could just try to control immigration
Well yeah, you have a world full of megacorp algorithms trying to make you scared, angry and addicted to their content. Funnily enough that will breed far right extremism
Nazis are not and will never be vegan. They might be on a plant-based diet, but that’s a different idea.
Fascists always infiltrate and try to copy and take over nice things. They don’t have theory or ideology to be persuasive intellectually, they can only imitate what’s popular to sneak by, to recruit, and to grow. If the stupidity and psychopathy of fascists was made transparent, they would remain obscure, so this is the ***the default*** for fascism. All they have is fantasy and bullshit, all deceit.
As for „trad“, that is not fascist appropriation, that is the grandparent of fascism. The pre-modern life and culture represent the social order desired by fascists. Even a century ago, Nazis were famously obsessed with medieval „knights“ and bloodlines. More modern bullshit includes „aliens“ (ancient too) and „star seeds“ and „Atlantis“ as part of the mythology of bloodlines; not as fascism, but fascism building blocks to show who is „superior“ and who isn’t (and who should be eliminated).
>Previously, however, their strength in doing so relied on the talent pool of their members, as musicians, artists and camera operators were needed to create content. With the advent of generative AI, this is no longer the case.
Yep. AI generation is a tool for scamming, for deceit, for manipulation. It’s a perfect fit for fascists.
`So-called “tradwives”, referring to female content creators who promote traditional gender roles on social media, are another example.`
This is from the article. Since when is promoting traditional gender roles considered far right?
Far right this far right that. Everything is far and right nowadays.
While I would more or less agree, the Guardian is a very biased and ideological on some things. They’re very critical of anything that doesn’t fit their middle class/privileged/wealthy centre left biases.
Look at how well it’s worked out for America. They’ve been in brain rot for last 15 years
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Its a counter to all the leftism of last decade. Thats kinda how it works, if you move the pendulum one way it goes back the other way.
Thats why you keep it in the fuking centre lmao…
the sock puppets in this thread are out in force
They should be more concerned in solving problems so people would not vote for right wingers.
Unamed band got a top 40 song in Hungary. 2 guys in 2014 wore nazi symbols. The proof is undeniable.
Has it already been too long since the WW2 and people don’t remember anymore? Unfortunately the left is also accelerating this with for example super loose and problem causing immigration policy.
People are more willing to entertain views that validate existing prejudices, rather than challenge them, and they will be eager to hear how those views are the source of all their problems. Social media and the lack of accountability for misinformation makes this problem exponentially worse.
if you can be convinced something is true, it becomes real to you, reality is subjective and if you’re stubborn enough everything that challenges your worldview becomes your word versus their word.
we live in a post-truth world where the things that actually happen don’t matter. the conservative and far-right thrives because of being expert at making up scenarios.
convince a small amount of people that something is true and it spreads, but in „democracy“ convincing people that something is true automatically makes it true
The rich have worked incredibly hard to make this happen.
The 24h news cycle and lack of fact checking is honestly to blaim.
Every rando can now spew sources out of their own ass or give super misleading info on any topic online which blows up on Twitter or whatever other social media and there is 0 to none pushback.
Well lately its been Americas plan to make Europe as racist as possible, as it was literally stated on the security 2025 document, so I’m not very surprised. Its in their best interest to get as many EU countries to quit.