Wie das Internet 4chan zurückließ | Das anonyme Forum florierte, als Edgelord-Inhalte in den Mainstream-Social-Media-Kanälen nicht akzeptabel waren. Heute ist es fast überall zu finden.

    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/infinite-scroll/how-the-internet-left-4chan-behind

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    1. PracticalBook8901 on

      Checked back after 10 years to the board I used, and it’s just porn now.. Plus you have to wait 10 mins before you can post and need to sign up with an email LOL

    2. Brilliant-Serious223 on

      Didn’t they say it was a government HoneyPot?, ran by a foreign country?

    3. The internet didn’t leave 4chan. 4chan leaked out and overtook the internet.

    4. ausernameisfinetoo on

      The base awfulness just spread across the internet, made worse by covid. Sociologists will have years of work to breakdown studies from that time and the society we live in now.

      Back in the day people would say the most awful things with the blanket of anonymity for fear of reprisal.

      Now they’ll do it with their full name attached and blame the other person for taking it personally. Once people saw the world as their grievance punching bag they stopped accepting the societal social contract.

    5. Stereo_Jungle_Child on

      Part of the enshitification process is to make people shittier too….and it’s working. We’re mainstreaming/normalizing toxicity, and our society and politics are showing the effects of that.

    6. Fantastic-Bear6749 on

      As a pre slaughter and good morning america anon : “ what killed chan ? “
      simple : region dox and anon hash that was public to all users just mods.

      I aint reading this normie slop I was there when the history was written.

    7. Yea i remember browsing b and x back in like the 2010 to 2012 era, it felt like you’d always see something interesting that you couldn’t see anywhere else. Nowadays if you go to b literally 80% or more of the threads are just boring porn or gooner threads. The rest are of no substance. Maybe it was like that back then too and I just don’t remember but I really feel like there was way less porn back then and more interesting stuff.

    8. jotarowinkey on

      4chan is a place where a neonazi can say whatever the fuck he wants and you can say whatever the fuck you want to that neonazi.

      facebook is a place where your dad goes to connect with family and becomes more and more bigoted until he can watch elon musk sig heil and still defend everything he says or does and if anybody says anything to him they are likely to get censored, especially at the point of providing links in an essay. facebook censors hate when you cite sources.

      so in my opinion, 4chan is a better ideological place than facebook and i mean that with no hyperbole.

    9. The number of people bemoaning the fall of a site focused on CP, bigotry, and fascist rhetoric here is really scary

    10. RookNookLook on

      So glad I never got into that shit, garbage back then and even worse now.

    11. bannedin420 on

      I use 4chan daily. I use /vg/ as it’s much better for discussion on games then Reddit. On here everyone complains and it’s so annoying. On 4chan it’s more focused.

    12. 4chan is nothing more than people posting and obsessing over traps and black dicks. Nothing like it used to be.

    13. Newfaceofrev on

      What kept 4chan OK was the anonymity. You couldn’t get famous, you couldn’t get clout, you couldn’t *monetise* it. Now you just say the n-word to a child and get donated half a million dollars.

    14. uniquelyavailable on

      4chan is a literal trash heap, it always has been a literal trash heap.

    15. Latter_Hedgehog_4402 on

      Great place for porn and conservative politics when you wanna be in outright fascist circles rather than soft spoken fascist circles (liberals)

    16. Voltage_Joe on

      I say this all the time

      Engagement algorithms mimic forum bump engagement. Trolls post rage bait, people feed them, rage bait gets fed to more people by the algo, repeat ad nauseam.

      Before, when we had control of our content feeds, shit takes were put down properly by the few people in their circles that saw them. So 4chan was the refuge where that shit take can get claps from other chuds and trolls, while getting bumped over and over by the triggered. 

    17. GreatGojira on

      To me why I never used 4Chan is it always seemed sketchy, and didn’t do anything too different from Reddit.

    18. I once saw a photo of a man taking a shit on a baby strapped to an ironing board on 4chan.

      The premise that edgelord content of 4chan somehow is mainstream now is pretty naive.

    19. I’d like to see the rise of kind-lord content though I suppose it isn’t as provocatively gratifying as edge Lord content

    20. Noseknowledge on

      I found 4chan at 12, older teen gamers showed me and either was there or playing video games for the better part of the next 10 years. It was hard to see as a kid but that place fked me up socially, I was jaded already prior but did it ever feed that. No child is meant to be that edgy that early, I was everything ego and counter culture. It also taught me a lot about the dark side of society. It taught me a lot about supressed right wing culture and how to spot it immediately and interact with it usually before it even knows its right wing; which I still find useful today when empathizing with some of my dude friends struggles. The racism always lost me though, I was there partly for niche interracial porn and porn in general unironically but dam did it mess up talking to women. I remember the day Jessie Slaughter happened I think I was 13 or 14 and the amount of threads with „you done goofed“ were insane. I saw a lot of history happen that way.

      The amount of hate 4chan had for reddit was the main reason I didnt join this site until a handful of years back, I would have been way better off here in the first place being more cringe than edgy

    21. caravan_for_me_ma on

      4chan was the digital backbone for bad actors in 2016. Then Reddit served as the laundry and cleaned up the worst of it and mainstreamed it. Legacy media took the bait and ran atrocious framing as ‘news.’ This was well before quarantining and out right banning. Pepperidge Farm remembers.

    22. Headcrabhunter on

      We were all probably better off when it was contained there and seen as something for basement dwellers now it is mainstream and that is infinitely worse.

    23. WistfulDread on

      It wasn’t left behind.

      It was always a cesspit. The ghetto between normal people and the truly criminal.

      It’s still that.

    24. shoegazeweedbed on

      Author is an idiot. The internet is more sanitized and over modded than ever

    25. StillbornPartyHat on

      Anything but taking responsibility for the ban/block-on-sight policies that pushed these people toward extremist circlejerks in the first place

    26. koolaidismything on

      4chan was mostly kids who wanted to use the N word. Was fucking boring. But.. every now and then you’d get some shut-in savant or some dickhead working a clandestine project and they’d just unload.

      Not talking the alien shit, tons of stuff. That site got its door knocked on by fed the world over almost daily. I’m sure many were plants.

      My fa was an alien one though.. I’d love to write a book about that one. Make it fun. The underwater base. He fleshed that story out so well.

      I must have read the entire thing, in screenshots, 40 times.

    27. ExtremJulius on

      Edgelord content thrives? People are self censoring, so I don’t think that’s necessarily true…

    28. People left once it leaked they were tracking and fingerprinting worse than Facebook.

    29. At the root of all the memes on the Internet are other memes. It’s kind of how artwork evolved with people digesting the artwork before them and improving on it somehow.

      That’s what happened with 4chan. 4chan is the bedrock on which almost all memes, even to this day, are built in. So much of our current culture as a society is based on 4chan that it’s actually kind of scary having been on the ground floor when it started.

      I can be scrolling on Instagram or any other social media and almost every other post is something that people think is „cool,“ but started off as a joke on 4chan.

      It was that powerful.

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