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    Hallo. Ich habe meine Großeltern zu Weihnachten besucht und hier hing schon immer eine Weltkarte mit Fahnen an der Wand. Ich habe viele Versuche gesehen, verschiedene Karten zu datieren, und habe beschlossen, es selbst zu versuchen.

    Ich hatte keine Ahnung, aus welcher Zeit diese Karte stammen könnte, also begann ich mit den offensichtlicheren Dingen.

    Das erste, was mir ins Auge fiel, war die Anwesenheit Jugoslawiens (Serbien und Montenegro). Die Karte stammt also aus der Zeit vor dem 4. Februar 2003.

    Osttimor ist auf der Karte markiert, was bedeutet, dass es nach dem 20. Mai 2002 liegt.

    Aber warte…

    Ich fing an, mir die Flaggen anzuschauen, und die erste, die mir ins Auge fiel, war die Flagge Afghanistans, die vom 27. April 1992 bis zum 6. Dezember 1992 verwendet wurde …

    Also ja … ich denke, diese Karte ist zumindest ein wenig falsch.

    Was die Flaggen betrifft, ist mir auch aufgefallen, dass es eine nichtkommunistische Flagge Tadschikistans gibt, die am 24. November 1992 geschaffen wurde.

    Der Zerfall der Tschechoslowakei erfolgte 1993, was ein weiterer Widerspruch ist.

    Ich weiß nicht, was ich von dieser Tatsache halten soll.

    Zu den weiteren Ungenauigkeiten, die mir aufgefallen sind, gehören die Markierung von Astana in Kasachstan anstelle von Almaty und die Flagge Haitis ohne das Emblem, das zwischen 1820 und 1849 verwendet wurde.

    Letztlich scheint mir also, dass die Karte selbst aus der Zeit zwischen dem 20. Mai 2002 und dem 4. Februar 2003 stammt und die Flaggen aus der Zeit zwischen dem 24. November 1992 und dem 6. Dezember 1992.

    Es stellte sich etwas seltsam heraus. Vielleicht möchte jemand das eine oder andere klären. Aber es ist auch seltsam, dass es eine solche Diskrepanz zwischen den Flaggen und der Karte gibt.

    Von TheKrzakkTTV

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    1. ClickBoringLife on

      I had this map when I was around 15 in the early 2000s but in English. I clearly remember the flags around the map

    2. Mission_Visual8533 on

      I remember this map from a school atlas I had in the 90s. Perhaps they recycled the old map in new edition, but not everything was updated.

    4. Lucine_machine on

      Pick somewhere nice for dinner, work out things that the two of you have in common, wear something decent and you’re good to go.

    5. weirdgroovynerd on

      Best way to rizz up a map:

      *Hey baby, I like dem curves!*

      Or

      *Do you like funny men? Cuz I’m a hill-areas guy!*

      These are quite powerful, so use them with caution.

    8. LVL90DRU1D on

      Bosnian flag is pre-1998 (1992-1998 to be exact), Mongolian flag is post-1992 (no star in the top left), Macedonian flag is post-1995 (but if there’s any Macedonians in this thread – feel free to correct me), Georgian flag is pre-2003, so around 1996-1997?

    9. Sir_Tainley on

      Gonna be honest, I think it’s got some ‚personality‘ issues going on. I think you can do better. Have some confidence, and get back in to the pool!

    10. Double-decker_trams on

      The things I first looked for.

      South Africa still has the Apartheid era flag (changed in 1994).

      Estonia is independent (free in 1991).

      Bosnia Herzegovina is independent from Serbia (1992).

      Czechioslovakia is separate (1993).

      Afganistan’s flag is the one used from 27 April 1992 to 6 December 1992.

      So.. I’ll go with 1993 – when the map was actually printed. Maybe. But as you said – there’s stuff that doesn’t make a lot of sense.

    15. DesperateLeader2217 on

      well normally i only date women but i guess i can be open minded.

    16. Any-Ad-4072 on

      Look at which countries are present and which aren’t, you can date it based on that

    18. SirBanananana on

      It has to be 2002 – just before Yugoslavia transitioned into Serbia and Montenegero, right after East Timor became independent and Rwanda acquired a new flag. The flag of Afghanistan is indeed incorrect but I guess this one is just a mistake.

    20. 270ForTheWinchester on

      All I can add is that it is sometime after February 16, 1965, as the it has the it has Canada’s (or Kanada on the map…) current red Maple Leaf flag.

    21. MFMDP4EVA on

      I would hold out and try to date an Atlas instead. More variety, for one thing.

    23. secondpersonsingular on

      Polish school atlas map probably made in 1995-96 with some minor inaccuracies (ie. flags from 1994)

    24. prank_mark on

      I think Timor Leste is what’s throwing you off. It became independent in 1975 and was annexed by Indonesia a year later. But annexed countries are sometimes still displayed as independent on maps, depending on who makes it (e.g. Crimea is annexed by Russia since 2014 but still shown as part of Ukraine on most maps). With the UN, Timor Leste remained a „non-self-governing territory under Portuguese administration“ during the Indonesian occupation. In 1999 it came under UN administration, and it became fully independent in 2002.

    25. kmoonster on

      The spellings on this map are odd to me as well, but I can’t put my finger on it. Which language is this in?

      edit: the usage forms of the Latin alphabet are what’s odd, I know it’s not English but that’s not what’s confusing me

    26. Any-Register-8375 on

      The South African flag is from pre-1994 both Czechia and Slovakia flags are there unlike on the map ( I assume the mistake is on the map not flags ) so anywhere between 1 January 1993 and 26 April 1994 ( assuming there’s no other major contradiction )

    27. timmyjimmers on

      Clues the map/flags give:

      -DRC flag is the Republic of Zaire flag but it being labeled as the DRC (switch happened in 1997 according to the Wikipedia history of their flag)

      -Bosnia and Herzegovina flag is the one used from 1992-1998

      -Rwanda flag is the one used from 1961-2001

      -Dodoma is the capital of Tanzania (officially recognized as such beginning in 1996 according to its Wikipedia page)

      -Ethiopia flag doesn’t have the star in it, so it’s probably during the transition period between their communist and current governments (1991-1996 according to their flag history on Wikipedia)

      -You mentioned the incorrect marking of Kazakhstan’s capital, and the switch between Almaty and Astana took place in 1997

      -You also mention the presence of Timor-Leste, which became recognized as independent in 2002 and

      So my guess is it’s probably from somewhere between 1995ish to 2003ish or so, and the makers just didn’t change some of the flags for some reason. The words appear to be in what I’m guessing is Polish, so maybe the Poles just didn’t feel like recognizing certain changes or something?

    28. Brilliant-One9031 on

      I had exactly the same map as a kid. My dad bought it around 2003-2005

    29. g3etwqb-uh8yaw07k on

      Lol, got the same thing in German when I was young. It came as a deskmat when friends of my parents gave me the old desk of their child at the start of elementary.
      Not sure, but my guess would be between late 80s and early 2000s, probably 90s. (The map could’ve just been a copy of an older design ofc)

      Not an expert on borders, but maybe it helps to narrow it down a bit.

    31. mj_outlaw on

      I had that exact map in my room, it was on a thick carton, shiny. It was in Poland, late 90s.

    32. exp0devel on

      Astana also means capital in Kazakh. Almaty was the capital of KZ for a brief period from 1991 to 1997, if that helps. So they probably figured out the Astana part, and marked it in the wrong place. It’s just half-assed atlas with a lot of mistakes and inconsistencies. For this particular mistake to happen it has to be post 1997.

    33. Abject_Appeal_7864 on

      OK, this is something between 1995 and 1997, since Belarus already has the flag of Lukashenko, and Rwanda still has the letter R, and Bosnia still has a white flag, and Congo still has the flag of Zaire.

      So this is most likely a transitional version of 1994-1995. Since South Africa still has the old flag, but Belarus already has a new one.

    34. TheKrzakkTTV on

      UPDATE:
      I learned a few interesting things.
      The flag of Afghanistan was changed in 1992, but many countries did not recognize the change and continued to use the old flag. East Timor is marked on the map, but Poland did not recognize its earlier annexation in 1976 and even pushed for its independence, so this is not a clue. In addition, the name Zaire is not on the map, only DRC. This change took place in May 1997. In India, Mumbai is written as Bombay, and the old name was used until 1995, but many atlases continued to show the old name for a long time. So I conclude that the map dates from 1997-98. The only inaccuracy at this point is the changed flag of South Africa, but this should be ignored.

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