It assumes people leave the country when their visa or work status expires.
AluminiumCucumbers on
You’d think the government would be focused on trying to make it even slightly feasible for folk to have families if they’re concerned about population decline. But nah
lakawan on
It is real. Thousands of temporary visa holders–workers and students whose visas were ending, have left and self-deported. For them, it’s particularly important to leave within the visa term so not to jeopardize future opportunities to be in Canada again legally.
daiglenumberone on
If it wasn’t real why is our rental market feeling the change?
Does anyone have recent cellphone subscribers data?
CanuckleHeadOG on
Carney is playing a shell game with the numbers… it’s obvious to anyone paying attention. I know they are internally sweating over the lay public figuring it out
Once_a_TQ on
TFWs, foreign students, ect are not population. They are temps and shouldn’t be counted.
dewgdewgdewg on
Just like inflation. Having 1 year of 5% growth followed by 1 year of 1% growth DOES NOT average 3% over 2 years.
Compounding is a concept that few people take the time to understand, though it’s not that difficult really.
cuda999 on
A mirage. Just words to soothe
Zazzurus on
Let it drop 10Billion. Then the hospitals will be functional again.
Content-Season-1087 on
The permanent population didn’t go down. Temporary residents went down.
Psychological_Neck97 on
Who can afford a kid right now ?
False_Ad7098 on
We need more grinding guys!!! 🤣
toilet_for_shrek on
We can have 12 straight quarters of the same decline and it’ll still be negligible next to Carney’s PR targets and all the people that came in under Trudeau
JohnDorian0506 on
It is a statistical mirage.
Based on those two adjustments, we project that population growth in 2025 will be 1.1%, followed by 1% growth in 2026 – notably stronger than the 0.3% and negative 0.2% currently officially projected. If we add TRV visa extensions back into the population base, growth could reach 2.3% in 2025 and 1.3% in 2026.
If we reduce immigration enough it will decline. Where we are at in that reduction is unclear to me (but numbers have reduced)
shankeyx on
Everyone I know born here is waiting until 40 to have kids because of living expenses, their parents however were in their late 20’s having kids. They could afford housing back then with lower skill jobs than what we are competing with here today. I don’t even want to raise dogs in a condo, let alone kids, some people are fine with it that way, I am not one of them. Unfortunately for me, you need about household income of 250-300k to afford a house in the area though, so the idea having kids is a bit of a pipedream now.
Hefty-Station1704 on
Population decline would mean an eventual decrease in housing prices if I’m not mistaken. Don’t see how many middle-class Canadians would worry about that.
BoppityBop2 on
It’s real, but also I disagree on worrying about it. This economic need of growth is stupid. The Chinese are literally automating their whole industry which is reducing jobs which is an issue but weirdly solves the population decline crisis as it is more efficient and cost efficient to build automated plant and hire a couple very highly skilled workers.
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It assumes people leave the country when their visa or work status expires.
You’d think the government would be focused on trying to make it even slightly feasible for folk to have families if they’re concerned about population decline. But nah
It is real. Thousands of temporary visa holders–workers and students whose visas were ending, have left and self-deported. For them, it’s particularly important to leave within the visa term so not to jeopardize future opportunities to be in Canada again legally.
If it wasn’t real why is our rental market feeling the change?
Does anyone have recent cellphone subscribers data?
Carney is playing a shell game with the numbers… it’s obvious to anyone paying attention. I know they are internally sweating over the lay public figuring it out
TFWs, foreign students, ect are not population. They are temps and shouldn’t be counted.
Just like inflation. Having 1 year of 5% growth followed by 1 year of 1% growth DOES NOT average 3% over 2 years.
Compounding is a concept that few people take the time to understand, though it’s not that difficult really.
A mirage. Just words to soothe
Let it drop 10Billion. Then the hospitals will be functional again.
The permanent population didn’t go down. Temporary residents went down.
Who can afford a kid right now ?
We need more grinding guys!!! 🤣
We can have 12 straight quarters of the same decline and it’ll still be negligible next to Carney’s PR targets and all the people that came in under Trudeau
It is a statistical mirage.
Based on those two adjustments, we project that population growth in 2025 will be 1.1%, followed by 1% growth in 2026 – notably stronger than the 0.3% and negative 0.2% currently officially projected. If we add TRV visa extensions back into the population base, growth could reach 2.3% in 2025 and 1.3% in 2026.
[https://thoughtleadership.cibc.com/article/population-growth-projections-are-we-repeating-past-mistakes/](https://thoughtleadership.cibc.com/article/population-growth-projections-are-we-repeating-past-mistakes/)
If we reduce immigration enough it will decline. Where we are at in that reduction is unclear to me (but numbers have reduced)
Everyone I know born here is waiting until 40 to have kids because of living expenses, their parents however were in their late 20’s having kids. They could afford housing back then with lower skill jobs than what we are competing with here today. I don’t even want to raise dogs in a condo, let alone kids, some people are fine with it that way, I am not one of them. Unfortunately for me, you need about household income of 250-300k to afford a house in the area though, so the idea having kids is a bit of a pipedream now.
Population decline would mean an eventual decrease in housing prices if I’m not mistaken. Don’t see how many middle-class Canadians would worry about that.
It’s real, but also I disagree on worrying about it. This economic need of growth is stupid. The Chinese are literally automating their whole industry which is reducing jobs which is an issue but weirdly solves the population decline crisis as it is more efficient and cost efficient to build automated plant and hire a couple very highly skilled workers.