Gonna hammer on this point so they never have address the lack of supply
jonnieggg on
“There’s no doubt in the figures for the last two years, migration has played a part in housing. It’s impacted on our housing. And when one says that, one gets accused of dogwhistling. I’m not, it’s just a fact, Mr Martin said“
Surely not. Has the government taken a swing to the fat right? A few months ago he would have been suspended at the very least on r/Ireland for a comment like that.
MrFox on
Disgusting.
BigAgreeable6052 on
I mean sure sort of, the same way salt has a part to play in the making of a cake. It’s a factor but definitely not the biggest one.
Don’t like how ireland is copying the UK in hoovering up hardline voters. Hopefully they’ll remain sensible
Margrave75 on
My dog was only just telling me this yesterday!
Super-Cynical on
The full quote for anyone interested:
I’m very conscious that migration has been central to economic growth in Ireland, and there’s been very good societal integration. There’s no doubt in the figures for the last two years, migration has played a part in housing. It’s impacted on our housing. And when one says that, one gets accused of dogwhistling. I’m not, it’s just a fact. If you look at the figures, maybe up to 50 per cent could be non-EU, non-EEA now and some of those could have been in the country for quite some time, working in many instances. People coming out of direct provision, particularly in the Dublin region, are beginning to be a significant factor in the growth in homelessness. So they come out of direct provision, they could be there three or four years, they could be legally assessed to be resident in the State and all of that. But when they come out of direct provision, there’s family reunification, and so therefore that is a factor.
Key_Duck_6293 on
Where’s that principle skinner meme when you need it
MyPhantomAccount on
Never mind the decades of incompetence, its Johnny Foreigners fault.
Strong-Sector-7605 on
He’s such a shameless cunt that lad.
FruitPunchSamurai57 on
Prick
thomasmc1504 on
or maybe the fact that the government allow the highest biding third party foreign investors to buy up all the properties! while michael lines his pockets with cash.
Dude-From-Mars on
The buck stops…somewhere.
AfroF0x on
Appealing to the far right as their grip on the centre wanes. It’s actually a very predictable move for them tbh
maddler on
Of course, why wouldn’t you blame migrants for your own failure to achieve pretty much anything?
cyberlexington on
Yes it has. But only because you and FG as the government for pretty much the last century have failed by not building enough. If you had, this wouldn’t be an issue but then you couldn’t scapegoat the poor and vulnerable for your god damn fuckup.
And IT IS dogwhistling you disingenuous shit, because THAT is what you’re latching your colours to. Not any other reason – including your own failures – but migration.
BazingaQQ on
No doubt repeated ignoraing of the issue by you and your predecessors have plsyrd a MAJOR part in thr housing crisis, Michael – no need to get xenophobic about it.
999ddd999 on
Nothing to do with his incompetence.
serenesabine on
So his government do nothing to solve the issue, made it worse and now is blaming migration…. Yeah that sounds about right
Coconut2674 on
If only there were someone, who’s job it is to fix the issue of housing, in a way so as to provide enough affordable homes for everyone…
On a serious note, immigration is not the main issue here. The issue is that house building has been effectively surrendered to private developers who need to make their investment back which therefore drives up cost and rent. Unlike publicly built housing which can run at a loss because it’s not beholden to shareholder interest.
peadar87 on
If I have 9 pints, drive my car at 160km/h along a country road, and kill a cyclist, it doesn’t absolve me from being an absolute gowl if the cyclist wasn’t wearing a high-vis.
Cop the fuck on Micheál.
4n0m4nd on
He’s also talking about how Ireland should start operating in the arms industry, you don’t have to call it dogwhistling to see that he’s moving in a specific direction.
stoveen on
No shit sherlock
davesr25 on
Seems like deflecting away from a situation the government created.
Pickle-Pierre on
Ahhhhhh so it’s the immigration fault that we don’t have any new apt or houses! I should have thought about it! Damn immigrants! Always taking our expensive house and apt! The government is really trying his best!
fensterdj on
Unbelievable buck passing horseshit
padrot on
No mention of lack of supply, REITS and handing over the entire public housing sector to private landlords. Immigration yes, may have some small part to play but realistically, government policy has created this mess.
GerKoll on
Well…what a delightful message from the government for the Christmas period.
MarcMurray92 on
Raging this prick didn’t get a harder doing last week, he’s absolutely useless
Complex_Hunter35 on
It’s to do with shite government policy. They could have stimulated the economy by building housing and created jobs in the process. Let’s be realistic too we would need labour from abroad. This whole banging the immigrant drum is a tired trope. There was a sociology experiment called the Robbers Cave experiment that showed people become tribal during times of limited resources and it breeds racism. At the height of the economy in Celtic Tiger ,80,000 houses s year were built. No doubt we will have the usual anti asylum seeker shite on this thread. Roll on downvotes…
ResponsibleTrain1059 on
The hard right turn since the presidential election to blaming everything on immigrants is so transparent.
It isnt helpful. FF and FG are the only people in government and the blame stops there. This shite it isnt going to win them votes from the crazies on twitter sending them death threats who blame everything in their shitty life on immigrants.
such_is_lyf on
A lovely Christmas message for us all, spreading Christmas cheer and togetherness while he takes a couple weeks off before returning to continue doing absolutely nothing to make this country a better place, and in fact tipping it the other way to appease his masters
qwerty_1965 on
They like to say our problems are those of success rather than failure. Clearly this isn’t true now if it ever was. Housing has never been treated as a genuine social crisis rather than just an infrastructure shortage.
Shanbo88 on
So supply has outstripped demand.
Damn, I really wish we had an extremely basic economical and business premise we could look to to see what we could *possibly* do next.
tomconroydublin on
No doubt that FFG were in charge for the last 20 years
FrankLucker on
Took them fucking long enough to admit it.
DelboyBaggins on
Wait a sec. When people have been saying that for years this weasel was calling them all kind of names.
No-Outside6067 on
I’m glad we voted in a totally new government. All these new ministers and Taoiseach seem to have a great handle on the problems that the guys in charge for the previous decade lacked.
Larrydog on
FF/FG such disingenuous geebags.
„Should we all be racist now“ Father ?
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Gonna hammer on this point so they never have address the lack of supply
“There’s no doubt in the figures for the last two years, migration has played a part in housing. It’s impacted on our housing. And when one says that, one gets accused of dogwhistling. I’m not, it’s just a fact, Mr Martin said“
Surely not. Has the government taken a swing to the fat right? A few months ago he would have been suspended at the very least on r/Ireland for a comment like that.
Disgusting.
I mean sure sort of, the same way salt has a part to play in the making of a cake. It’s a factor but definitely not the biggest one.
Don’t like how ireland is copying the UK in hoovering up hardline voters. Hopefully they’ll remain sensible
My dog was only just telling me this yesterday!
The full quote for anyone interested:
I’m very conscious that migration has been central to economic growth in Ireland, and there’s been very good societal integration. There’s no doubt in the figures for the last two years, migration has played a part in housing. It’s impacted on our housing. And when one says that, one gets accused of dogwhistling. I’m not, it’s just a fact. If you look at the figures, maybe up to 50 per cent could be non-EU, non-EEA now and some of those could have been in the country for quite some time, working in many instances. People coming out of direct provision, particularly in the Dublin region, are beginning to be a significant factor in the growth in homelessness. So they come out of direct provision, they could be there three or four years, they could be legally assessed to be resident in the State and all of that. But when they come out of direct provision, there’s family reunification, and so therefore that is a factor.
Where’s that principle skinner meme when you need it
Never mind the decades of incompetence, its Johnny Foreigners fault.
He’s such a shameless cunt that lad.
Prick
or maybe the fact that the government allow the highest biding third party foreign investors to buy up all the properties! while michael lines his pockets with cash.
The buck stops…somewhere.
Appealing to the far right as their grip on the centre wanes. It’s actually a very predictable move for them tbh
Of course, why wouldn’t you blame migrants for your own failure to achieve pretty much anything?
Yes it has. But only because you and FG as the government for pretty much the last century have failed by not building enough. If you had, this wouldn’t be an issue but then you couldn’t scapegoat the poor and vulnerable for your god damn fuckup.
And IT IS dogwhistling you disingenuous shit, because THAT is what you’re latching your colours to. Not any other reason – including your own failures – but migration.
No doubt repeated ignoraing of the issue by you and your predecessors have plsyrd a MAJOR part in thr housing crisis, Michael – no need to get xenophobic about it.
Nothing to do with his incompetence.
So his government do nothing to solve the issue, made it worse and now is blaming migration…. Yeah that sounds about right
If only there were someone, who’s job it is to fix the issue of housing, in a way so as to provide enough affordable homes for everyone…
On a serious note, immigration is not the main issue here. The issue is that house building has been effectively surrendered to private developers who need to make their investment back which therefore drives up cost and rent. Unlike publicly built housing which can run at a loss because it’s not beholden to shareholder interest.
If I have 9 pints, drive my car at 160km/h along a country road, and kill a cyclist, it doesn’t absolve me from being an absolute gowl if the cyclist wasn’t wearing a high-vis.
Cop the fuck on Micheál.
He’s also talking about how Ireland should start operating in the arms industry, you don’t have to call it dogwhistling to see that he’s moving in a specific direction.
No shit sherlock
Seems like deflecting away from a situation the government created.
Ahhhhhh so it’s the immigration fault that we don’t have any new apt or houses! I should have thought about it! Damn immigrants! Always taking our expensive house and apt! The government is really trying his best!
Unbelievable buck passing horseshit
No mention of lack of supply, REITS and handing over the entire public housing sector to private landlords. Immigration yes, may have some small part to play but realistically, government policy has created this mess.
Well…what a delightful message from the government for the Christmas period.
Raging this prick didn’t get a harder doing last week, he’s absolutely useless
It’s to do with shite government policy. They could have stimulated the economy by building housing and created jobs in the process. Let’s be realistic too we would need labour from abroad. This whole banging the immigrant drum is a tired trope. There was a sociology experiment called the Robbers Cave experiment that showed people become tribal during times of limited resources and it breeds racism. At the height of the economy in Celtic Tiger ,80,000 houses s year were built. No doubt we will have the usual anti asylum seeker shite on this thread. Roll on downvotes…
The hard right turn since the presidential election to blaming everything on immigrants is so transparent.
It isnt helpful. FF and FG are the only people in government and the blame stops there. This shite it isnt going to win them votes from the crazies on twitter sending them death threats who blame everything in their shitty life on immigrants.
A lovely Christmas message for us all, spreading Christmas cheer and togetherness while he takes a couple weeks off before returning to continue doing absolutely nothing to make this country a better place, and in fact tipping it the other way to appease his masters
They like to say our problems are those of success rather than failure. Clearly this isn’t true now if it ever was. Housing has never been treated as a genuine social crisis rather than just an infrastructure shortage.
So supply has outstripped demand.
Damn, I really wish we had an extremely basic economical and business premise we could look to to see what we could *possibly* do next.
No doubt that FFG were in charge for the last 20 years
Took them fucking long enough to admit it.
Wait a sec. When people have been saying that for years this weasel was calling them all kind of names.
I’m glad we voted in a totally new government. All these new ministers and Taoiseach seem to have a great handle on the problems that the guys in charge for the previous decade lacked.
FF/FG such disingenuous geebags.
„Should we all be racist now“ Father ?