Well Canada was telling everyone to fuck him and someone did so
Baset-tissoult28 on
If you join the EU we might forgive you about Celine Dion and Trudeau.
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JustTaxRent on
Yeah I don’t think Canada will apply for EU.
If they did, I can’t even imagine the number of asterisks that has to be negotiated.
hardy_83 on
Even if they tried to join the EU. I doubt it would be more than a passing comment with officials considering how long it’d take and how many Russian assets lead enough EU countries to be problematic.
Gimped on
I’ve looked into this a bit out of curiosity. We literally cannot join the EU. In order to even be considered, you have to be in proximity to the other members. We’re an ocean away. Sorry…
Ok-Ordinary9374 on
Unfortunately the US would never allow Europe to establish expansion into North America.
htom3heb on
I will keep the loonie, thanks.
Hawktuahthepolls on
No thanks to the EU. Better to make our own with the commonwealth.
BestBlueChocolate on
Being able to jump on board the EU would be amazing. Let’s get on that train that goes after Elon Musk and gets him to back down please.
LegitimateGiraffe7 on
Why would we want to join the EU . We can barely get anything done now, why add levels of bureaucracy to make it even more difficult
Birdybadass on
EU membership would be disastrous for Canada. The bureaucratic stagnation of Europe is not the solution to Canadas problems, especially when many of our problems are bureaucratic stagnation.
JayRMac on
There will be people who talk about the possibility, but no application, negotiations, or even formal discussions will happen next year. Maybe after a few years of quiet, unofficial, behind-the-scenes discussions between the people who work for the people who make the decisions.
There are good arguments for and against. I’m generally in favour, but it depends on what the agreement actually looks like. Luckily, the EU is very slow and bureaucratic when it comes to major changes like this, we’ll all be tired of the debate before any decision gets made.
Jusfiq on
If we think that immigration is bad now, joining EU would let people from poorer European countries such as Bulgaria and Greece unfettered access to live and work in Canada.
bandersnatching on
A cynical takedown piece by what passes for the Conservative intelligencia is worthless.
Their Trudeau fetish is now over the top. He’s no longer a public figure, yet they can’t seem to let him go.
swearengens_cat on
Honestly can’t wait to hear about Justin’s penis.
Old_General_6741 on
Closer relations with the EU: Yes
Joining the EU: No
Qaxar on
Join the EU? Has CETA even been ratified? Joining the EU would be a decades long process.
VHPguy on
I’m in to join the EU, and I’m curious how the details would work.
Valahul77 on
It is not possible for Canada to join the EU since the current EU treaties prohibit non-European countries from joining. Maybe a free trade agreement could work but even here it is hard for Canadian companies to enter on the European markets. If we only take food industry as an example, the EU has much stricter regulations that would require hundreds of billions of investments in order to comply with them. Not sure if the potential there would worth a such huge effort.
dollarsandcents101 on
EEA membership is my Carney conspiracy theory.
Thanato26 on
Maybe Eurovision…but i doube the full EU…. though that would deffinetly boost our economy
newwave1967 on
I would not be opposed to a union with the EU.
TheSleepyTruth on
Why join the EU? It’s a fun sounding novelty being able to freely move throughout Europe, but that’s about the only benefit. For Canada as a country it would be a detriment. Think how slow and burdensome our bureaucracy is now and then multiply it x10. Also we simply lose sovereignty. We can’t come up with our own regulations and trade agreements without EU nations approving of it first. Europe would be telling us what to do and deciding what trade agreements we can or can’t make, what sort of governance we are allowed to have, and what sort of policies and laws we are allowed to implement. People vehemently objected at the idea of becoming a US state, but for some reason seem allured with the idea of becoming an EU state.
How about we just try to be good allies and partners to as many countries as possible, get some solid trade deals and travel agreements, and keep our own sovereignty and ability to write our own fate and determine our own future.
imaginary48 on
While I think it would be cool to have the ability to live, work, and retire in Europe, I don’t think people understand what it means to actually join the EU with all this talk about it suddenly.
You don’t just sign up to the EU and they stamp your application — it is a challenging multi-year process, sometimes a decade or more. Candidate countries must conform all their laws, standard, rules, and institutions to conform to the EU’s, and that means everything, including food, immigration, marketplace competition, banking, air and sea ports, cars, emissions standards, product labelling, taxation, fisheries, customs, government budgets, etc., etc.. For a lot of Canadians, those are important things related to our sovereignty and very touchy subjects at times, so not exactly things we want to lose control over.
On top of that, every current member state must unanimously agree to approving the candidate, and that’s starting with all of them agreeing to even begin these negotiation in the first place. Furthermore, Canada is made of up a very decentralized federation of provinces with a federal government, so adding the EU would be placing a third supranational layer of governance on top of that when our current system can already be challenging enough to negotiate and keep together.
While more integration, trade, and mutual benefit is certainly possible between Canada and the EU, full Canadian membership is a pipe dream.
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Well Canada was telling everyone to fuck him and someone did so
If you join the EU we might forgive you about Celine Dion and Trudeau.
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Yeah I don’t think Canada will apply for EU.
If they did, I can’t even imagine the number of asterisks that has to be negotiated.
Even if they tried to join the EU. I doubt it would be more than a passing comment with officials considering how long it’d take and how many Russian assets lead enough EU countries to be problematic.
I’ve looked into this a bit out of curiosity. We literally cannot join the EU. In order to even be considered, you have to be in proximity to the other members. We’re an ocean away. Sorry…
Unfortunately the US would never allow Europe to establish expansion into North America.
I will keep the loonie, thanks.
No thanks to the EU. Better to make our own with the commonwealth.
Being able to jump on board the EU would be amazing. Let’s get on that train that goes after Elon Musk and gets him to back down please.
Why would we want to join the EU . We can barely get anything done now, why add levels of bureaucracy to make it even more difficult
EU membership would be disastrous for Canada. The bureaucratic stagnation of Europe is not the solution to Canadas problems, especially when many of our problems are bureaucratic stagnation.
There will be people who talk about the possibility, but no application, negotiations, or even formal discussions will happen next year. Maybe after a few years of quiet, unofficial, behind-the-scenes discussions between the people who work for the people who make the decisions.
There are good arguments for and against. I’m generally in favour, but it depends on what the agreement actually looks like. Luckily, the EU is very slow and bureaucratic when it comes to major changes like this, we’ll all be tired of the debate before any decision gets made.
If we think that immigration is bad now, joining EU would let people from poorer European countries such as Bulgaria and Greece unfettered access to live and work in Canada.
A cynical takedown piece by what passes for the Conservative intelligencia is worthless.
Their Trudeau fetish is now over the top. He’s no longer a public figure, yet they can’t seem to let him go.
Honestly can’t wait to hear about Justin’s penis.
Closer relations with the EU: Yes
Joining the EU: No
Join the EU? Has CETA even been ratified? Joining the EU would be a decades long process.
I’m in to join the EU, and I’m curious how the details would work.
It is not possible for Canada to join the EU since the current EU treaties prohibit non-European countries from joining. Maybe a free trade agreement could work but even here it is hard for Canadian companies to enter on the European markets. If we only take food industry as an example, the EU has much stricter regulations that would require hundreds of billions of investments in order to comply with them. Not sure if the potential there would worth a such huge effort.
EEA membership is my Carney conspiracy theory.
Maybe Eurovision…but i doube the full EU…. though that would deffinetly boost our economy
I would not be opposed to a union with the EU.
Why join the EU? It’s a fun sounding novelty being able to freely move throughout Europe, but that’s about the only benefit. For Canada as a country it would be a detriment. Think how slow and burdensome our bureaucracy is now and then multiply it x10. Also we simply lose sovereignty. We can’t come up with our own regulations and trade agreements without EU nations approving of it first. Europe would be telling us what to do and deciding what trade agreements we can or can’t make, what sort of governance we are allowed to have, and what sort of policies and laws we are allowed to implement. People vehemently objected at the idea of becoming a US state, but for some reason seem allured with the idea of becoming an EU state.
How about we just try to be good allies and partners to as many countries as possible, get some solid trade deals and travel agreements, and keep our own sovereignty and ability to write our own fate and determine our own future.
While I think it would be cool to have the ability to live, work, and retire in Europe, I don’t think people understand what it means to actually join the EU with all this talk about it suddenly.
You don’t just sign up to the EU and they stamp your application — it is a challenging multi-year process, sometimes a decade or more. Candidate countries must conform all their laws, standard, rules, and institutions to conform to the EU’s, and that means everything, including food, immigration, marketplace competition, banking, air and sea ports, cars, emissions standards, product labelling, taxation, fisheries, customs, government budgets, etc., etc.. For a lot of Canadians, those are important things related to our sovereignty and very touchy subjects at times, so not exactly things we want to lose control over.
On top of that, every current member state must unanimously agree to approving the candidate, and that’s starting with all of them agreeing to even begin these negotiation in the first place. Furthermore, Canada is made of up a very decentralized federation of provinces with a federal government, so adding the EU would be placing a third supranational layer of governance on top of that when our current system can already be challenging enough to negotiate and keep together.
While more integration, trade, and mutual benefit is certainly possible between Canada and the EU, full Canadian membership is a pipe dream.