Es gibt keine roten Staaten, nur rote Vororte

You’re taking away the most populated GOP areas and leaving in the blue cities obviously the state will be blue. If your hypothesis is right you should take out the entire metropolitan area the urban, suburban and exurban areas. The states will be red if you do that.

This is a really cool insight into this phenomena and I could go on for quite a bit about all the different moving parts at play here. To keep it brief, this does align with an anecdotal observation and outlook that I’ve been tossing around.

The middle and upper middle class exurbanites are the January 6th defendants. They’re the ones with the Trump trucks and taking over school boards. Lots of flak gets tossed towards truly rural people, but I reckon they hardly give two shits about poltics and aren’t nearly as far down the neo-conservative far-right rabbit hole that these annoying ass facebook addicted culture war waging exurban Karens have all gone down. They sit out there in their little domiciles cosplaying country folk while working their fancy jobs and recreating in the urban centers they so detest. They have no real challenges or strife, so they are constantly ready to be fed the next line about how a migrant is gonna come murder them and turn their kids trans. They sit in absolute peace and safety, fantasizing about going guns blazing into the scary world they’ve conjured up in their heads from the most milquetoast and unoffensive places imagineable. It all feels like a big farce.

For once I think there is actually additional information beyond “people live in cities” to this one. I would phrase it as “Population density decreases as you move away from city centers. Republican vote share increases as you move away from city centers. So Republican votes – I.e. Republican margin times population – is concentrated in the exurbs.” Not super surprising but still slightly more nuanced than the usual map of cities.

Exact same type of person who drives a lifted pickup truck

Minnesota, too. Very blue in the Twin Cities, surrounded by red. The rest of the state, as I suspect for others, too, is more mixed. There are parts of MN and the NC mountains, that are red and not near any major city.

“There are no blue states, only blue urban cores.” Same reductive vibes

r/DavesRedistricting mentioned


Yep. These are the middle and upper class, dominated white, who refuse to mingle with „the others.“ The subdivisions are exclusive, the golf courses even more so, and the schools are private.

Douglas County, CO is a great example, right outside of Denver.

Seems like this would work with Wisconsin and the WOW counties too.

Lots of people missing the point in the comments here. This is a really interesting way of reframing the common trope that it’s as simple as „blue cities and red states“

Largest GAINS, because many of those rural areas were already consistently voting 80-90% Republican.

Pennsylvania would be interesting to see.

2024 TX and SC would be red. Alaska would be really close.

You can easily make the same type of map for Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada, and Arizona. Not counting Pennsylvania since it’s more of a pure “urban/rural” divide.

North Carolina and Georgia are interesting to look at here cause that blue urban core is only stretching further out year by year. Like the Raleigh-Durham area isn’t a major source of Republican support at all, and you have to get pretty far out into the Atlanta metro before you get into majority Republican areas

Errrr…. r/PeopleLiveAroundCities I guess?

If you want actually intelligent discussion of political geography, try r/angryobservation or r/davesredistricting (although don’t expect a ton of engagement, they’re pretty small lol).

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