Frauen, die mit Männern zusammenarbeiteten, gaben an, mehr unbezahlte Hausarbeit zu verrichten als Frauen, die mit Frauen zusammenarbeiteten. Mütter, die mit Männern zusammenarbeiteten, berichteten von einer höheren Arbeitsbelastung im Haushalt als jede andere Gruppe. Ein größerer Anteil der Hausarbeit war mit einer geringeren Beziehungszufriedenheit verbunden.
Study sheds light on household labor dynamics for women partnered with women vs. men
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Unpaid household labor is a fun way to start an argument over chores.
It is not very surprising that societal trends of sexism negatively affect women, but I guess it is good to have the data that shows it.
r/science when science has data that shows sexism is real and negatively affects women: >:(
My wife hates doing chores and cooking so she works full time while i have a 3/4 part time job and having more time and energy doing all the chores.
We are getting paid for chores now?
Yep, that was certainly my experience.
Isn’t this a more complicated way of saying: women do more then 50% of household chores on average?
As with 2 women, both together can only do 100% of chores, so on average can only be 50% of chores per woman.
This gotta be a cultural thing. I live here in Finland in area known for lot of immigrants.
I see men taking children out, pushing those baby carriages (?). I see men doing the shopping with children at mall. Women also, but i think based on what i see its not that uncommon to see men do that kind of work. I guess it depends on which parent has a job.
In some conversations irl and ofc online i see this „women do alla meta work“. Hell, i seen this at my work. And everytime when things are listes who does who, it never is that simple.
People are crap at understanding what other people do for them. Thats why these things must be talked about. Like, how much effort, time, physical strenght something takes.
So is this just saying women feel they are doing more when they are the only woman in the pair?
N≈200 relationships with self-reporting… probably fine. About half of those were with men. The men’s self-reporting was fully discarded, if even taken. Meanwhile, the study says nothing about the mothers being stay-at-home mom’s, or not. Where a disproportionate amount of chore assignment might be expected. Doesn’t say if both women in the woman-woman relationships were surveyed.
Idk guys, verdict?
I don’t normally want to sound like a sexist jerk, but why is it never questioned that I’m supposed to do 100% of the „man“ work like fixing everything that hreaks, house and car maintenance, and yardwork? Yeah I don’t clean as much as my wife but there’s a million other things that I’m automatically expected to do.
How about men partnered with men?
I can’t read the full text.
But neither the news article nor the abstract cover how employment was used to weight the conclusion, if at all.
The conclusion that a married woman with children who doesn’t work a 9-5 job does more labor around the house is the least interesting conclusion I’ve ever heard.
The weaker conclusion—basically the title of the reddit post—isn’t novel either, per the article.
> Women partnered with men reported doing more unpaid household labor than women partnered with women. This finding aligns with previous research regarding gender roles in different-gender relationships.
But again…the question of who is working and who isn’t is an important one, even without children in the picture, so I’m surprised to not see that discussed other than a brief throwaway statement that doesn’t reference any of the actual research conducted.
> This imbalance often persists even when both partners work full-time jobs.
Show me the actual research!
I’m a bi woman in a longterm relationship with another woman. It’s always good to study things like this, but I am zero percent surprised.
The perfect relationship is 60/40, with both trying to be the 60.
They use the term “unpaid household labour” but I don’t know any relationship where the couple “pays” for household labour. For instance – if somebody cleans a house is it worth $100? And if somebody fixes a staircase in the house, do they charge “trades” prices? It’s always been a strange concept, calling chores unpaid labour. If I get groceries, will it be classified as unpaid grocery delivery? Should all things we do to contribute to a relationship be considered “unpaid service”?
With that, I believe the split in responsibilities around the house for F-F versus F-M relationship is interesting. I’m curious if household handiwork was considered part of the labour burden. And I’m curious if they used it as a relation to the amount of time while not at work.
Interesting nonetheless.
It’s pretty true to everyone I have talked to. It’s another reason men are lonely here in the us. They want to be treated like a child. Women are expected to work, then come home and handle the family, the appointments and the chores. Being queer gave me an out
„This imbalance often persists even when both partners work full-time jobs.“ – I wonder why they didn’t disclose the working hours of the couples that took part in this survey.
Men are the most likely of the two in heterosexual relationships, especially with kids involded, to be carrying out the majority of the combined work hours. It’s often more affordable to have one parent home with the kids than it is to be paying for childcare.
It makes sense then that the person caring for the kids and working the least hours (At home more) to be doing more of the chores.
I struggle to understand why it’s so difficult to see that the person who is at home more, is the one doing more of the day to day chores. It just so happens that women are more likely to be home more/working less hours than men in these specific relationships.
My wife reported (to me) an unbalance in domestic tasks. So I kept tabs of our tasks and used that to create a table of chores on a whiteboard. We both thought we were doing more than the other, and proper accounting made it feel fair.
Quite a few friends have the same feel.
With this, I am saying that the reporting can be more feel than reality.
My wife is a SAH, I do about 20% of the chores and work full-time.. it works for us.
Everyone over estimates their own contributions because they see 100% of what they do and not everything the other person does.
So this says women reported it doesn’t actually have data to say whether it’s factually true.
This highlights how unequal household labor isn’t just a fairness issue but a relationship one. Chronic imbalance likely translates into stress, resentment, and less time for recovery, which can quietly erode relationship satisfaction over time.
While plenty of men are lazy and/or sexist. I would bet a significant part of this statistic is driven by women themselves. Either the internalized social expectation that „mom/wife“ is supposed to do it, and/or an externalized social expectation that men will be worse at it so they should just do it themselves.
It would also help explain the finding that women in relationships with other women reported less decision making power. They would be making fewer unilateral decisions like „its my job as the mom.“ or „I’ll just do it, he will do it wrong.“
At least in Sweden women do about 18 minutes more a day of household chores. But they also tend to work 2 hours less per day
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And did they do one on men where they report whether or not they do more diy than the women they’re partnered with? I.e heavy lifting, painting, wallpapering, siliconing etc? I feel like that should be factored in too because house maintenance is no joke.
And part of this is more deeply related to capitalism – which created patriarchal gender roles and indoctrinated society into thinking a good woman is a good house maker. Which is a social system for extracting unpaid labor for child rearing and maintenance so that greater labor compliance can simultaneously be extracted from men.
‘Reported’ being the operative word. Not saying the outcome can’t be true but this particular subject and method and outcome is famously unreliable.
Yeah… Some of us are stay at home dad’s that do the majority of the housework AND do gig jobs to try to make money.
Some of us.
So if one partner makes more money and pays a lot more of the bills doesn’t that mean the lower income partner IS getting paid, albeit indirectly? Free rent is worth a lot of chores.