citizenship should not hinge on an agents gut feeling. if the system cant verify a birth certificate without jailing the person, the system is broken.
lordagr on
ICE is a state sponsored terrorist organization.
B-Z_B-S on
Terrifying.
neutrino71 on
This one was on my bingo card
Papers, please!
I don’t like the look of your paper, detention for you
As Nazi as it comes
Zenitallin on
They will be arresting people because their tits and wee wee’s are fake.
TopHighway7425 on
The message is: Always assume a badge and uniform are fake. Defend yourself. Defend your autonomy. Figure out the details later.
jason082 on
Shit, before long they’ll claim the same of 80% of the people on Reddit. So what if my birth county certified it, I disagree with the shit policies of the federal government so my document is trash.
Turbulent-Strike9658 on
We always knew this is where they’d end up. MAGA spent the last year telling us „well if you have your papers you won’t be arrested,“ where do the goalposts go from here?
YesterShill on
All ICE involved in this need to be prosecuted for kidnapping once the current regime is toppled.
TheMainShy on
Read through this article asap. This is absolutely messed up. We’re at the next stage! Wake up! Everyone needs to share and bring awareness to this now. If they disappear and exile/traffic away a US BORN person, then it’s over and open season on all of us. It’s game over. No due process, papers are fake, clerical errors, made up charges, kidnapped, isolated, gone, and done. That’ll be our fate. Welcome to fascism.
Help get her back!
>“They’re denying that any of her birth certificates, which are from Laurel, Maryland, her records of immunization, medical records — they’re denying the authenticity of them. It is something I’ve never encountered.”
>-Zachary Perez, attorney for Dulce Consuelo Diaz Morales
I honestly have no idea how we can get out of this. So basically anyone can be detained and that’s all there is to it.
Interesting-Risk6446 on
ACLU needs to be taking this shit to court.
Sea_Refrigerator3709 on
This is unironically the scenario I’ve presented to explain how dumb ‘no due process’ is to the few MAGA remaining in my life. Even if you have documentation there’s nothing stopping these goons from just saying it’s fake and shipping you away.
Skiinz19 on
They lost Kilmar Abrego Garcia so ICE had to go gin up another disgusting case
reddittatwork on
This my literal nightmare-
mr_evilweed on
They know it’s real. They just want enough plausibility so they can say they thought they were following the law when they get sued.
move-it-along on
This is why ICE should be working off of court ordered removals instead of “ all brown people have to go” removals.
Spirited_Childhood34 on
Let me guess. The citizen is not white.
transneptuneobj on
I’m excited that trump is challenging bidens autopennsignings..there’s no chance he signed every pardon and there’s no chance he’s gonna sign every ice pardon.
CountOnBeingAwesome on
Honest to God. Can everyone who likes this and says „yes, we’re finally fixing our country“. Please explain why?
LipGlossAndLies30 on
a U.S. birth certificate is issued by the state. if ICE thinks its fake, thats either a state error or federal overreach… either way, the citizen shouldn’t be the one punished.
Miguel-odon on
Arresting her, despite clear evidence she had committed no crime (not even without evidence) is malicious and intentional.
Tumbleweed829 on
There is no way anyone still supports this guy. Right? Right?!?
JustSomeGuy424242 on
I hope she sues.
spiritplumber on
do you go to jail if you make one of these bipeds eat your passport
SweetButNotInnocent2 on
a birth certificate issued by a us state is either valid or the whole system is optional. cant have both
sircastor on
I don’t see how we can have a sense of justice if carrying a document that proves your legitimacy can be simply disregarded as illegitimate by the person who is incentivized to call it illegitimate.
pqratusa on
>Diaz Morales’ situation is somewhat unusual. After being born in Maryland, she went to Mexico as a child but never obtained a U.S. passport. At some point, she entered the United States without documentation, fleeing what her attorneys described as an emergency, life-or-death situation. Diaz Morales’ father referenced the danger posed by Jalisco Nueva Generación, a cartel.
noncongruent on
Kidnapping and transporting the victim across state lines is a major federal felony. Hopefully in the future all of the agents and personnel involved are identified, tried, and convicted for their part in this major crime.
CrimsonHeretic on
Prove it’s ICE and not just some other random thug who doesn’t identify themselves.
turb0_encapsulator on
birth certificates are simple pieces of paper with no way to verify them on the spot. this could get ugly if they just decide to say they are fake when they want.
No-Cup-8096 on
Can ICE read? They’re not hiring the brightest.
Lonely_skeptic on
Damn trump. A certified copy of a birth certificate can easily be obtained from the clerk of court in the county of birth, which would prove the validity of the existing paper documentation.
madasfire on
I carry my papers every day. Everywhere I go. *I keep a cap up on my head you know I never go out bare*
kmoonster on
I want to be surprised this happened, but…I’m only surprised that it took this long.
The GEO group near me has been detaining a woman for about six months now who is here on a U-visa (something like state’s witness, but for people who are not citizens). They went after her, but failed, in Trump 1.0.
A court has now ordered ICE to figure this the fuck out, there is a hearing coming up.
And those are just a couple that make the news — how many others are there being held for days, weeks, or months? And the fuck will Kristi Noem’s excuse be this time?
Blackflipflop on
Well they are hiring barely literate people now. So that’s great.
Violet-Journey on
This is exactly why due process cannot exist unless it applies to everyone regardless of citizenship. If you have to present proof that you have rights, they can just choose to ignore your proof to deny you those rights.
Sabiancym on
Trumpism is all about denying reality. You could be standing in front of something, and the MAGA crowd will have no problem saying it doesn’t exist. We’re that far into cult land.
Soon the validity of your citizenship won’t matter. All it will take is Trump or one of his lackeys saying you aren’t a citizen and that’s what Will become reality.
I’m just going to say it. Conflict is the only way this ends.
stang2184699 on
This is what happens when you expand a work force and fill it with idiots.
Js_On_My_Yeet on
And there it is! Nazi America is now upon us. Fuck this Administration.
GlocalBridge on
So where do they deport them? Back to God?
Playful-Berry-1811 on
Hmm your papers arent paper enough sorry!
NickelBackwash on
Usually they just steal it and rendition the citizen to Uganda
kmoonster on
I’m happy to put my taxes toward settling against these intentionally „ignorant“ buffoons
48 Kommentare
citizenship should not hinge on an agents gut feeling. if the system cant verify a birth certificate without jailing the person, the system is broken.
ICE is a state sponsored terrorist organization.
Terrifying.
This one was on my bingo card
Papers, please!
I don’t like the look of your paper, detention for you
As Nazi as it comes
They will be arresting people because their tits and wee wee’s are fake.
The message is: Always assume a badge and uniform are fake. Defend yourself. Defend your autonomy. Figure out the details later.
Shit, before long they’ll claim the same of 80% of the people on Reddit. So what if my birth county certified it, I disagree with the shit policies of the federal government so my document is trash.
We always knew this is where they’d end up. MAGA spent the last year telling us „well if you have your papers you won’t be arrested,“ where do the goalposts go from here?
All ICE involved in this need to be prosecuted for kidnapping once the current regime is toppled.
Read through this article asap. This is absolutely messed up. We’re at the next stage! Wake up! Everyone needs to share and bring awareness to this now. If they disappear and exile/traffic away a US BORN person, then it’s over and open season on all of us. It’s game over. No due process, papers are fake, clerical errors, made up charges, kidnapped, isolated, gone, and done. That’ll be our fate. Welcome to fascism.
Help get her back!
>“They’re denying that any of her birth certificates, which are from Laurel, Maryland, her records of immunization, medical records — they’re denying the authenticity of them. It is something I’ve never encountered.”
>-Zachary Perez, attorney for Dulce Consuelo Diaz Morales
**FIND AND CONTACT YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS!**
https://www.usa.gov/elected-officials
**CONTACT AND SUPPORT THE ACLU**
https://www.aclu.org/about/contact-us
I honestly have no idea how we can get out of this. So basically anyone can be detained and that’s all there is to it.
ACLU needs to be taking this shit to court.
This is unironically the scenario I’ve presented to explain how dumb ‘no due process’ is to the few MAGA remaining in my life. Even if you have documentation there’s nothing stopping these goons from just saying it’s fake and shipping you away.
They lost Kilmar Abrego Garcia so ICE had to go gin up another disgusting case
This my literal nightmare-
They know it’s real. They just want enough plausibility so they can say they thought they were following the law when they get sued.
This is why ICE should be working off of court ordered removals instead of “ all brown people have to go” removals.
Let me guess. The citizen is not white.
I’m excited that trump is challenging bidens autopennsignings..there’s no chance he signed every pardon and there’s no chance he’s gonna sign every ice pardon.
Honest to God. Can everyone who likes this and says „yes, we’re finally fixing our country“. Please explain why?
a U.S. birth certificate is issued by the state. if ICE thinks its fake, thats either a state error or federal overreach… either way, the citizen shouldn’t be the one punished.
Arresting her, despite clear evidence she had committed no crime (not even without evidence) is malicious and intentional.
There is no way anyone still supports this guy. Right? Right?!?
I hope she sues.
do you go to jail if you make one of these bipeds eat your passport
a birth certificate issued by a us state is either valid or the whole system is optional. cant have both
I don’t see how we can have a sense of justice if carrying a document that proves your legitimacy can be simply disregarded as illegitimate by the person who is incentivized to call it illegitimate.
>Diaz Morales’ situation is somewhat unusual. After being born in Maryland, she went to Mexico as a child but never obtained a U.S. passport. At some point, she entered the United States without documentation, fleeing what her attorneys described as an emergency, life-or-death situation. Diaz Morales’ father referenced the danger posed by Jalisco Nueva Generación, a cartel.
Kidnapping and transporting the victim across state lines is a major federal felony. Hopefully in the future all of the agents and personnel involved are identified, tried, and convicted for their part in this major crime.
Prove it’s ICE and not just some other random thug who doesn’t identify themselves.
birth certificates are simple pieces of paper with no way to verify them on the spot. this could get ugly if they just decide to say they are fake when they want.
Can ICE read? They’re not hiring the brightest.
Damn trump. A certified copy of a birth certificate can easily be obtained from the clerk of court in the county of birth, which would prove the validity of the existing paper documentation.
I carry my papers every day. Everywhere I go. *I keep a cap up on my head you know I never go out bare*
I want to be surprised this happened, but…I’m only surprised that it took this long.
The GEO group near me has been detaining a woman for about six months now who is here on a U-visa (something like state’s witness, but for people who are not citizens). They went after her, but failed, in Trump 1.0.
A court has now ordered ICE to figure this the fuck out, there is a hearing coming up.
And those are just a couple that make the news — how many others are there being held for days, weeks, or months? And the fuck will Kristi Noem’s excuse be this time?
Well they are hiring barely literate people now. So that’s great.
This is exactly why due process cannot exist unless it applies to everyone regardless of citizenship. If you have to present proof that you have rights, they can just choose to ignore your proof to deny you those rights.
Trumpism is all about denying reality. You could be standing in front of something, and the MAGA crowd will have no problem saying it doesn’t exist. We’re that far into cult land.
Soon the validity of your citizenship won’t matter. All it will take is Trump or one of his lackeys saying you aren’t a citizen and that’s what Will become reality.
I’m just going to say it. Conflict is the only way this ends.
This is what happens when you expand a work force and fill it with idiots.
And there it is! Nazi America is now upon us. Fuck this Administration.
So where do they deport them? Back to God?
Hmm your papers arent paper enough sorry!
Usually they just steal it and rendition the citizen to Uganda
I’m happy to put my taxes toward settling against these intentionally „ignorant“ buffoons
This seems to be relevant again.
[https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=p_WMSJLDwRs&si=kIE2r29Yu_N5IST3](https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=p_WMSJLDwRs&si=kIE2r29Yu_N5IST3)
At what point do people start using the 2A as it was designed?
well ICE is a bunch of fat idiots with low testosterone, so that is not surprising.
At least the OG Nazis didn’t cover their faces