LEO congestion really is getting scary. Feels like we are sprinting ahead without a solid cleanup plan.
BahutF1 on
Yeah, but… Yeah. Having say that… In the end..
Could it be shittier than it is already down here?
forestapee on
The other fun part is all the LEO stuff coming down, burning up, and aerosolizing all their metals and chemicals used to make up their high tech devices
cpp_is_king on
It’s weird that the article says absolutely nothing, not even a mention, about how what the consequences would be. What would change on earth if all satellite infrastructure worldwide was wiped out for 10 years?
twbassist on
2.8 Days to Disaster is like a a prequel to the zombie series.
El_efante on
Welp, time to buy a map
_Piratical_ on
This is something that I was thinking about before Starlink got all of its constellation into orbit. The fact that there are going to be multiple companies with similar sized satellite constellations in LEO is seriously going to complicate getting into higher orbits or out of the earths gravity entirely if any collisions happen within those constellations. I have yet to see any model predictions of how collisions might propagate among a constellation of satellites, but I’d like to. It might make for a very sobering watch.
GreyBeardEng on
You know how we have the ocean geyer, giant patches of garbage that are bigger than Texas floating around in the ocean fucking up everything they touch?
I feel like I’m going to see that with low orbit in my lifetime. A few medium sized or big things are going to get hit and it’s just going to form this cloud of garbage that moves at Mach 18 wiping out everything that it happens across, slowly getting bigger. „Oh were you alive when the Capricorn Space Geyer formed?“
Interwebnaut on
Here’s another older article on the same issue:
A satellite collision catastrophe is now inevitable, experts warn | BBC Science Focus Magazine
Excerpt:
“Such crashes have already been happening: in 2009, the functioning US satellite Iridium 33 and the inoperable Russian Cosmos 2251 collided at 11.7km/s (7.3 miles/s), producing more than 2,000 pieces of trackable debris and many smaller pieces. …”
And I still have my Rand McNally road maps. So I’m good.
Tremolat on
My render of the article included a Google ad for Starlink. Chef’s kiss.
ratsrekop on
It’s rather the pollution caused by completely unnecessary satellites burning up in our atmosphere that’s the larger issue here…
ThisCaiBot on
So what? The 1% of people who care will get by just fine anyway.
robbob19 on
The problem with the above image, and everyone trying to imagine the situation, is the scale. Those dots that represent satellites are the size of small cities in the image, reality is a bit different. The biggest issue is some twat putting all these satellites up there to provide internet in areas where there is already better internet available. Who in their right mind would get star-link when fibre is available?
the-packet-catcher on
You’re ignoring mobile use cases for LEO Internet, and likely many other business scenarios.
cinemachick on
WALL-E continues to accurately depict the future
bangzilla on
Remindme! 2.8 days
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Additional link, source link per the article:
[2512.09643] An Orbital House of Cards: Frequent Megaconstellation Close Conjunctions
https://arxiv.org/abs/2512.09643
LEO congestion really is getting scary. Feels like we are sprinting ahead without a solid cleanup plan.
Yeah, but… Yeah. Having say that… In the end..
Could it be shittier than it is already down here?
The other fun part is all the LEO stuff coming down, burning up, and aerosolizing all their metals and chemicals used to make up their high tech devices
It’s weird that the article says absolutely nothing, not even a mention, about how what the consequences would be. What would change on earth if all satellite infrastructure worldwide was wiped out for 10 years?
2.8 Days to Disaster is like a a prequel to the zombie series.
Welp, time to buy a map
This is something that I was thinking about before Starlink got all of its constellation into orbit. The fact that there are going to be multiple companies with similar sized satellite constellations in LEO is seriously going to complicate getting into higher orbits or out of the earths gravity entirely if any collisions happen within those constellations. I have yet to see any model predictions of how collisions might propagate among a constellation of satellites, but I’d like to. It might make for a very sobering watch.
You know how we have the ocean geyer, giant patches of garbage that are bigger than Texas floating around in the ocean fucking up everything they touch?
I feel like I’m going to see that with low orbit in my lifetime. A few medium sized or big things are going to get hit and it’s just going to form this cloud of garbage that moves at Mach 18 wiping out everything that it happens across, slowly getting bigger. „Oh were you alive when the Capricorn Space Geyer formed?“
Here’s another older article on the same issue:
A satellite collision catastrophe is now inevitable, experts warn | BBC Science Focus Magazine
Excerpt:
“Such crashes have already been happening: in 2009, the functioning US satellite Iridium 33 and the inoperable Russian Cosmos 2251 collided at 11.7km/s (7.3 miles/s), producing more than 2,000 pieces of trackable debris and many smaller pieces. …”
https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/satellite-collisions-disaster
And I still have my Rand McNally road maps. So I’m good.
My render of the article included a Google ad for Starlink. Chef’s kiss.
It’s rather the pollution caused by completely unnecessary satellites burning up in our atmosphere that’s the larger issue here…
So what? The 1% of people who care will get by just fine anyway.
The problem with the above image, and everyone trying to imagine the situation, is the scale. Those dots that represent satellites are the size of small cities in the image, reality is a bit different. The biggest issue is some twat putting all these satellites up there to provide internet in areas where there is already better internet available. Who in their right mind would get star-link when fibre is available?
You’re ignoring mobile use cases for LEO Internet, and likely many other business scenarios.
WALL-E continues to accurately depict the future
Remindme! 2.8 days