Diplomaten halten die Integration der Ukraine in die EU bis 2027 für unwahrscheinlich

I love Ukraine, I want Ukraine to join the EU, but the timeline is absurd! We couldn’t integrate Norway or Iceland within a year, let alone Ukraine.
Let’s set the ambition to 2030, so it will finally happen 2035-2040.
(I see this as entirely separate from the ongoing war – in that war we should fully support Ukraine, and we should give them security guarantees as quickly and as far reaching as possible)

Yeah sure..and once the money they receive will be conditioned by implementing EU directives and regulations they’ll veto everything and probably go back crying in Russia’s welcoming arms…

The war could still be going on in 2027.

Wrote elsewhere about this bullet speed EU membership of Ukraine:

I think what EU needs to do at the moment is to create some „half-membership“ status where half-members get

– rotating representation in EU Commission (as the veto practically exists in the commission, limited/rotating veto rights)
– reduced (say, like a country half of their population) representation in EU parliament (e.g. Ukraine is represented not like a ~40M Poland but like a ~20M Romania)
– a right to cherry pick/opt in or out EU policies depending on their needs (they can join or not join present or future EU policies)
– no automatic application of four freedom of movements (goods, people, capital and services) but some guaranteed legislative favoring towards citizens/goods/companies/banks of half member states in full members and vice versa.
– no unanimity requirement to be a half member state.

I’d say not only Ukraine but also UK and even Turkey could be interested with such a thing. These countries will likely be the „bridges“ (so not exactly europe but not outside europe either) between europe and other cultural spheres: UK with other anglo-saxon countries (Canada, US, Australia and New Zealand) and perhaps commonwealth nations, Ukraine with Russia&Belarus (yes, ironically), Turkey with Muslim&Turkic&Caucasian countries. I could even add a speculative Iberian federation to be the bridge with latin american countries, but that’s up to them to decide (and there’s no particular interest atm)

I mean, obviously. The accession path of any country into the EU takes usually way more years for very good reasons.

When I read headlines like „Ukraine in EU in 2027“, I’m like „eh? Do people even know what they are talking about?“.

After all the pro Ukrainian solidarity ends no one will want Ukraine in the EU let’s be fr.

Ukraine“s integration will probably take 15 to 20 years after the war ends. It will be,by a far margin, the most challenging candidate the EU has ever had. I would say a more realistic approach for Kyiv would be to secure some sort of association agreement with the EU in order to obtain the much needed funds for reconstruction. The reconstruction of Ukraine alone will require funds in the order of hundreds of billions of euros.

EU needs to get its act together real damn quick and whoever said Ukraine doesn’t have borders is projecting a false statement. One thing is certain if Ukraine is sacrificed as a consequence of the incompetency of the EU bickering frivolously over decisions there will be a major conflict in Europe. And this won’t be your grandfathers war either.

Anyone who thinks EU membership is on the table anytime soon: how the Hell are you going to get Orban to agree?

As long as anti EU parties continue to win elections in EU states, talking about inviting new countries in seems rather academic.