Would a N95 mask filter out particles of this size?
WloveW on
Depends on the altitude.
„There was some good news for air passengers. Ultrafine particle pollution in the cabin was very low when aircraft were at cruise altitude in relatively clean air. On the ground, however, it was a different matter. In the new study, the greatest concentrations of ultrafine particles were measured when passengers were boarding and when aircraft were taxiing. On average, the levels were more than twice those that the WHO defines as high. This polluted air was gradually flushed from the cabin once airborne but it increased again on approach to landing, possibly from high concentrations close to flight paths and downwind from airports. This pattern was also found at the destination airports.“
thedm96 on
The last 4 times I’ve flown I have contracted Covid and I make a point to wash my hands. Whatever they are doing for air filtration doesnt seem to be preventing sickness.
best_of_badgers on
And what effects does this cause that we have evidence of? And what is the effect size compared with other problems we can solve?
Sampo on
I’d like to compare to the concentrations of particles in subway stations.
This study reports about 20 000 ultrafine particles/cm3 when the plane is stationary in the airport.
So this study measures particle counts, and the Vienna study measures the mass.
TheFrenchToast512 on
It is known that tarmacs at airports have some of the highest air pollution concentrations for people.
This is primarily due the engines, and there are active projects to mitigate this. Schiphol Airport is the leader in the initiative of this, on top of fuel savings for airlines, the primary benefit is less polluted air at the airports. This harms all the airport and ground ops employees that deal with this daily l.
While taxiing, when behind an aircraft, the fumes coming from the aircraft in front are injected by the engines and get pushed into the aircraft’s pneumatics system.
The best solution for this are electric tugs at all airports for both arrivals and departures so that engines are only being run when taking off and landing.
Carbonaraficionada on
Sorry for a potentially dumb question, but are the particles coming from the fuel? So they’re combustion products correct?
rantripfellwscissors on
Just another reason to avoid living anywhere near an airport.
8fmn on
I remember an older QI episode where they claimed that cabin air quality was better back when smoking was allowed versus after it was banned because they filtered the air less. I’ve always wondered how true this claim was.
XonikzD on
I mean anyone who’s ever sat on the runway waiting for takeoff has smelled the fumes and thought, gosh that can’t be good for me.
Btw, ask about those fumes and flight attendants will give you a wonderful answer about nothing related to the fumes.
0_cunning_plan on
Meanwhile, the employees on the tarmac: „am I a joke to you?“.
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Would a N95 mask filter out particles of this size?
Depends on the altitude.
„There was some good news for air passengers. Ultrafine particle pollution in the cabin was very low when aircraft were at cruise altitude in relatively clean air. On the ground, however, it was a different matter. In the new study, the greatest concentrations of ultrafine particles were measured when passengers were boarding and when aircraft were taxiing. On average, the levels were more than twice those that the WHO defines as high. This polluted air was gradually flushed from the cabin once airborne but it increased again on approach to landing, possibly from high concentrations close to flight paths and downwind from airports. This pattern was also found at the destination airports.“
The last 4 times I’ve flown I have contracted Covid and I make a point to wash my hands. Whatever they are doing for air filtration doesnt seem to be preventing sickness.
And what effects does this cause that we have evidence of? And what is the effect size compared with other problems we can solve?
I’d like to compare to the concentrations of particles in subway stations.
This study reports about 20 000 ultrafine particles/cm3 when the plane is stationary in the airport.
I found this other study, reporting about 20 micrograms/m3 of PM1 mass (mass of particles smaller than 1 micrometers) in Vienna subway stations.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6702191/
So this study measures particle counts, and the Vienna study measures the mass.
It is known that tarmacs at airports have some of the highest air pollution concentrations for people.
This is primarily due the engines, and there are active projects to mitigate this. Schiphol Airport is the leader in the initiative of this, on top of fuel savings for airlines, the primary benefit is less polluted air at the airports. This harms all the airport and ground ops employees that deal with this daily l.
https://www.aerospacetestinginternational.com/news/taxibot-hybrid-electric-tug-testing-advances.html
While taxiing, when behind an aircraft, the fumes coming from the aircraft in front are injected by the engines and get pushed into the aircraft’s pneumatics system.
The best solution for this are electric tugs at all airports for both arrivals and departures so that engines are only being run when taking off and landing.
Sorry for a potentially dumb question, but are the particles coming from the fuel? So they’re combustion products correct?
Just another reason to avoid living anywhere near an airport.
I remember an older QI episode where they claimed that cabin air quality was better back when smoking was allowed versus after it was banned because they filtered the air less. I’ve always wondered how true this claim was.
I mean anyone who’s ever sat on the runway waiting for takeoff has smelled the fumes and thought, gosh that can’t be good for me.
Btw, ask about those fumes and flight attendants will give you a wonderful answer about nothing related to the fumes.
Meanwhile, the employees on the tarmac: „am I a joke to you?“.