Bin auf diese Umfrage gestoßen und verstehe die Ergebnisse der 18- bis 29-Jährigen nicht, da ich dachte, dass sie erst vor ein paar Jahren für KO gestimmt haben. Handelt es sich um eine Ausreißerumfrage oder haben sich alle innerhalb von etwa zwei Jahren radikalisiert?

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    1. The-marx-channel on

      I’d say that the reason why the youth support parties outside the PiS/PO two party system is because they lived through the many scandals of Pis and saw the Backtracking that Tusk and the Coalition did. This lack of faith in both parties is one of the reasons why Parties like Razem have gained so much support in recent times.

    2. Social media as source of political information. Support based on memes and loud events – instead of actually understanding the policies and stances supported by the party they choose to support.

      We live in era where cheap shots and ratio are more important than statesmanship and long term plans. Which means, for one – many more voters are „single issue voter“. And secondly – especially among the younger – a lot of voters are „fluid“ and change who they are supporting very easily. Usually whoever makes most meme-able noise. Doesn’t matter if a politician is a total piece of shit – „I’ll vote for him because have you seen the video of him assaulting someone? Hilarious!“

    3. Either_Baker_4459 on

      In my opinion its due to a lot of right wing podcasts on the internet and generally the right wing politicians having more pronounced presence on the internet. A lot of people shrugged it off as just a phase, only for these kids to grow up and be able to vote now.
      Another thing being a lot of young people seeing we are not in the best place in general, with rising unemployment, wages not rising to meet inflation etc. And these people just come up with „simple“ solutions. Lowering taxes, banning foreign laborers, cutting public spending to lower the taxes. It gives people an outlet to be angry without questioning the establishment too much or aligning yourself with socialists who are portrayed as the devil in our collective unconcious due to generational trauma of living in poverty-stricken authoritarian regime using socialism as its slogan.

    4. casbah_boogie on

      The same thing that’s going on with youth in general it seems. The times are getting tough and barely anything is as good at giving simple answers for hard questions as the good old reactionary talking points.

    5. M23, We are extremely disappointed by the last 20 years of either PiS or PO ruling. Two parties listed in the top are two separate ways of hearing that disappointment.

    6. Platypus__Gems on

      Glad to see Razem at 2nd place, maybe there is at least a little bit of hope.

    7. Both main parties have nothing to offer to young people. They’re full of old farts (I’m almost forty and I recognize all these faces from when I was watching TV as a kid) and all they ever talk about are problems of old people: retirements, health care. The solutions they have for problems of young people are laughable (like the gov subsidized housing loans that all they did was double price of homes, and they tried to do it second time).

      Whatever you think of Konfa and/or Razem as parties, whatever you thing about their talking heads, they’re seen as the new alternative to the two parties that have been playing pingpong with polish politics since the end of PRL and young people see that it’s just a constant stagnation and corruption.

      Are the new parties better? Probably not, but they’re at least aren’t the „same old“ that’s been shitting on issues of the youth and catering to the elderly.

      EDIT: Ok, I’m gonna repeat, because clearly this is going over the head of people: I’m describing why young people sway away from the current two party status quo and lean towards the „new“ for what’s seen as both left and right wing alternatives. This is neither endorsement nor condemnation of these parties, as their actual merit is kind of irrelevant in this particular discussion.

    8. Young people experienced the slacking and incompetence from both major parties and lack the tribelike attachment to them present in older voters so parties directly presenting themselves as being outside the system such as razem and konfa are way more appealing to them

    9. Korwin adjacent parties always had biggest support among youngest voters, but situation got worse. There are multiple causes, but in my opinion the most important is that konfederacja have the best reach in tik-tok style social media. Additionally their rhetoric is nicely boosted by russian propaganda, which aims into weakening EU. Their propaganda is really successful overall, but it have the easiest way to reach youngest voters, who can’t remember how shitty everything was before accession.

    10. Old ones are so corrupt that youngsters don’t want them for another 20 years

    11. People are tired of PiS and PO. PiS is just PiS. PO promised a lot to young people and did almost nothing. „We got 30% of votes…“

    12. ElderMillenialSage on

      Who would have guessed that exploiting the young and giving them slim chances to improve their lives would turn them desperate enough to listen to populists slinging false promises to solve their issues.

      **/s**

    13. I’m 26 and have no fucking clue. Possibly we are just stupid. Also 9% for Braun? Holy fucking shit.

    14. 1.People from several years ago doesn’t fit this category anymore lol

      2. KO had its chance, PiS had its chance, both parties are more fit for old people, young people try new alternatives (Konf over PiS and Razem over KO)

    15. Professional-Mix1771 on

      Firstly: youth is always most radicalized and lean into one of the „far“ options; they are also always most anti-establishment

      Secondly: surveys are worth shit, especially that far away from any elections

      Thirdly: youth mostly don’t vote

    16. GrinchForest on

      Why suprise, young people has enough of KO-PIS quarrel, wasting money and not solving real problems.

      Even with increase of minimal pay, Poland is around 26th place in purchasing power in Europe. Meaning if young people get his/her pay and pay rent, food and etc.(which costs are rising), they are not able to saving anything for future.

      They are not able to purchase the new house/flat, if they don’t pay they won’t even see a doctor.

      If you were a young person, do you think you would be happy.

    17. Honest-West9013 on

      Too much time spent in social media. Especially insta, tik-tok, twitter. It literally fries brain by amount of political propaganda.

    18. Sad-Muffin-1782 on

      It’s pretty obvious that youth want to break the duopoly, also they tend to be more extremist so voting for either konfederacja or razem is to be expected

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