It’s quite interesting how close we actually were to just getting you’re standard dictator instead of hitler, the stars almost perfectly aligned for him if you can call it that, on retrospective not so much.
If Hindenburg had been more decisive, if the republican parties would’ve had a strategy to combat the great Depression to limit the effects just a bit wich actually would’ve took the Mayority from anti republican parties since it was really small, but no strategy was implemented so the economic disaster became an economic fallout, if the reparations would’ve been lifted to let the economy recover just a little earlier, if hitler would’ve just been killed in WW1 if France wouldn’t had occupied the Rhineland wich enraged many workers in the region and throughout the country, a little less votes and no worker strikes, man it’s almost comical how many thing’s have happened in succession, it wasn’t even a sure thing for Hindenburg to run, it wasn’t even a sure thing he would back the Nazis, like goddam if the WW1 translator’s wouldn’t had purposefully mistranslated the peace deal to make it sounds like Germany accepts all responsibility for the war, this already would’ve removes much legitimaticie from the Nazis like it’s really comical basically any of these thing’s could’ve possibly prevented at least Hitlers rise and you would’ve just seen a Mussolini and franco, dictator but nothing like hitler
Longjumping_Care989 on
I always thought that this set of maps put the nail in the coffin of the argument that Proportional Representation brings extremist parties to power.
The Nazis got c.33% of the vote and c.33% of the seats in the 1932 elections and c.44% in 1933
But on a quick eyeball- maybe they’re the largest party in c.75% of polling districts in 1932 and maybe 85% in 1933?
Not that it made much difference in the end, but on a strictly FPTP counting of the votes, the Nazis would have been elected as a dictatorship (or close to it) right from the off, and, if anything, accellerated their atrocities.
Quite apart from the fact that its what people actually voted for, of course.
Reiver93 on
The fact the Nazis essentially just boycotted the government until everyone voted for them and that *worked* is insane.
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Source: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Erinthecute#Weimar_Republic
November 1933 not included because, well, by then there was only one winner: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_1933_German_parliamentary_election#Results
It’s quite interesting how close we actually were to just getting you’re standard dictator instead of hitler, the stars almost perfectly aligned for him if you can call it that, on retrospective not so much.
If Hindenburg had been more decisive, if the republican parties would’ve had a strategy to combat the great Depression to limit the effects just a bit wich actually would’ve took the Mayority from anti republican parties since it was really small, but no strategy was implemented so the economic disaster became an economic fallout, if the reparations would’ve been lifted to let the economy recover just a little earlier, if hitler would’ve just been killed in WW1 if France wouldn’t had occupied the Rhineland wich enraged many workers in the region and throughout the country, a little less votes and no worker strikes, man it’s almost comical how many thing’s have happened in succession, it wasn’t even a sure thing for Hindenburg to run, it wasn’t even a sure thing he would back the Nazis, like goddam if the WW1 translator’s wouldn’t had purposefully mistranslated the peace deal to make it sounds like Germany accepts all responsibility for the war, this already would’ve removes much legitimaticie from the Nazis like it’s really comical basically any of these thing’s could’ve possibly prevented at least Hitlers rise and you would’ve just seen a Mussolini and franco, dictator but nothing like hitler
I always thought that this set of maps put the nail in the coffin of the argument that Proportional Representation brings extremist parties to power.
The Nazis got c.33% of the vote and c.33% of the seats in the 1932 elections and c.44% in 1933
But on a quick eyeball- maybe they’re the largest party in c.75% of polling districts in 1932 and maybe 85% in 1933?
Not that it made much difference in the end, but on a strictly FPTP counting of the votes, the Nazis would have been elected as a dictatorship (or close to it) right from the off, and, if anything, accellerated their atrocities.
Quite apart from the fact that its what people actually voted for, of course.
The fact the Nazis essentially just boycotted the government until everyone voted for them and that *worked* is insane.