EXKLUSIV: Die USA lehnen den deutschen Antrag auf Integration amerikanischer Artillerieraketen ab
https://www.euractiv.com/news/us-denies-german-request-to-integrate-american-artillery-rockets/
Von SraminiElMejorBeaver
EXKLUSIV: Die USA lehnen den deutschen Antrag auf Integration amerikanischer Artillerieraketen ab
https://www.euractiv.com/news/us-denies-german-request-to-integrate-american-artillery-rockets/
Von SraminiElMejorBeaver
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>The refusal could make it more difficult for the German military to cooperate with the US and other NATO allies
>BERLIN – The US government has once again refused a request from the German defence ministry to integrate the Guided Multiple Launch Rocket Systems (GMLRS) rockets Berlin purchased from Washington with European rocket launchers, Euractiv has learned.
>The German government has made multiple such requests over the past several years. Still, neither the Biden nor the Trump administration has shown openness, according to German and American government sources. The refusal could jeopardise the German military’s interoperability with the US and other NATO allies, many of which use US-made launchers.
>The modernisation and expansion of Germany’s rocket artillery systems are among the central goals of the country’s so-called *Zeitenwende*, the shift in foreign and defence policy announced in response to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. One of the key lessons from the war has been the need to rebuild rocket artillery capabilities.
>For decades, Germany has used MARS II launchers, which are compatible with US systems. However, Germany’s Ministry of Defence is now aiming to adopt the Euro-PULS rocket launcher system, a joint project by defence companies Elbit and KNDS, which can be equipped with weapons from various manufacturers.
>Berlin has purchased five Euro-PULS systems for testing, and they will be integrated into the German military in 2026.
>Still, the decision to use these new launchers has created complications. Germany needs US approval to integrate American weapons into the Euro-PULS system. To date, the US-purchased GMLRS rockets used by the Bundeswehr on its MARS II launchers are not compatible with Euro-PULS.
>The German defence ministry has long expressed confidence that Washington would grant the necessary authorisation. Yet for nearly three years, no such approval has been issued.
>This places the ministry of defence in a bind. Not only would the newly acquired Euro-PULS systems be incompatible with the GMLRS rockets already in Bundeswehr stocks, but the inability to integrate US weapons into German systems also complicates cooperation with NATO partners.
>Countries such as Italy, Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, and the Baltic states have all opted for the US HIMARS system and its associated GMLRS rockets.
>One likely reason for the US refusal is that integrating the fire-control software connecting the launcher and the rocket could give other manufacturers partial insight into the functioning of some of the most advanced US missiles, including PrSM, which has a range of up to 1,000 kilometres.
>Some officials at the German ministry of defence said the US could provide a new software solution that would avoid these concerns.
>In an email to Euractiv, a German ministry of defence spokeswoman said the US decision is not yet final.
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Sorry to say, but who thought having no Plan B was a good idea? Who thought renting our security and tech from “allies” is the right way to go?
I doubt that their military industrial complex is happy with the current admin. Or they are in for a rude awakening
The Great Betrayal has begun
Hopefully they have been looking at developing their own launchers and rockets… since this is not exactly new.
That quite normal.
Germans for example dont allow us to put our radios in our Leopard 2 so we have to use some old shit from 80
Washington’s regime is Russian ally. Get it in your heads everybody and expect the worst.
You need to be kinda stupid to buy anything American in this day and age. Military equipment, more so.
guess they’ll have to sell the rockets as scrap to Ukraine
Stop buying US arms.
They can cut us off at a moment’s notice. You can’t have a sovereign Europe if we persist in using American weapons. Be it these missiles, naval equipment, F-35s and whatever else we license/buy off them, the US can cut us off, and then we have to go back to them hat in hand.
We simply don’t learn, and the Yanks know that. They also know we can’t step too far out of line because of our dependence on them.
We need European independence *now*!
This is not new, it’s been denied since back in the Biden days. Trump sucks, but this is business as usual
To no one’s surprise.
Was the message translated from Russian? Just asking
Stop buying weapons from these treacherous fucks. They are not our ally anymore. Europe needs to wake up to this new geopolitical reality.
Buy European!
Just build your own. With Germany’s industrial base there’s no need for overpriced American systems.
The US turning its back to Europe must be one of the stupidest things to ever happen in global politics. And all because one single person is being blackmailed by Putin.
Thought Germany was buying Israeli systems
I WILL probably be downvoted for saying this but I have to be honest… the argument is that, even the Biden admin refused such demands because the US want to protect its technology and agreeing to the German demands would open potential technology transfer. That’s what I get from the article. And if true, it is perfectly normal for a country to protect its core technology from unwanted transfer, even more to a country that is re-arming
I am pro-EU, however Germany has the habit of trying to force technology transfer to them. They try to this this for decades with France (now I know most people are aligning with the Germans to blame the lack of cooperation to France, but the point here is that France is legitimate to protect its investment it has made for decades, same for the US).
Now, maybe I misread the article, English isn’t my primary not my secondary language.
But if I don’t misread it, I would like to point out, of all the countries re-arming, Germany is the country forcing the most technology transfer. Be it France, the US or anyone else, this way of operating isn’t legitimate.
>The German government has made multiple such requests over the past several years. Still, neither the Biden nor the Trump administration has shown openness, according to German and American government sources.
But Trump is more fun to blame.
lol you can tell who read the article and who didn’t, I swear the Europeans on this sub are basically useful idiots for Russia, every military in the world would deny this because it exposes RND and also market share, this is the reason France pulled out of Canadian fighter jet bid because they will need to disclose a lot of classified workings of Rafale to connect with NORAD, not to forget US is currently helping get UK and Italy’s missiles to work with F35
Biden refused this too, fwiw.
It’s standard US focused capitalism, rather than anything more nefarious.
Don’t let that stop this thread from losing it’s shit though.
Merz isn’t jorking Trump’s cock good enough
American working in defense here. First, sorry for all the bullshit this year. Words can’t capture it but FWIW, I’ll say it.
The article touches on what I can say with high confidence is the root issue. The fire control system intricacies-protecting them. Not saying I agree with the stance though.
An example we’ve dealt with from Israel and Rafael:
Congress gave Israel $1billion USD to develop their Iron Dome system. Our Marine Corps decides to utilize the bulk of it for an air defense capability. But Israel and Rafael won’t share some necessary, but sensitive control info, even though the US covered much of the cost of the system development. And then another $700 million in advances and sustainment.
Interestingly, Elbit who makes the new launchers Germany acquired, is Israeli.