I’m not surprised. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree (his dad for non Americans)
Vanilla_Either on
Who is even surprised?
Zaphod392 on
Say it with me: PRO-JEC-TION
janewp on
He’s rich and white, that makes it okay. Duh. /s
mcs5280 on
„He who saves his Country does not violate any Law“
-Napolean MAGAshart
Titan3692 on
the only loans he hasn’t defaulted on are the ones putin gave him.
JoostvanderLeij on
It is not a fraud when Trump does it. And if it is, he has full immunity thanks to SCOTUS.
TheHomersapien on
This is sure to upset the 78 million Americans who enthusiastically voted for a rapist.
What does the 2028 Democrat candidate for president have to say about all this? I can’t find info on their rallies and/or campaign events.
Due-Egg4743 on
Wealthy people are often really stingy with money. A lot of people think that once you become really rich you’ll have a change of heart and be charitable and so forth because they have more money than they could ever need. But these people are often greedier than ever and don’t want to do things like tip servers. They want to get even filthier rich as they start to compare lifestyles and think they’re poor in comparison to others they know. I was traveling with a really rich guy in our group once who had tons of heavy bags that had to be carried through the airport and he didn’t tip the guy a single penny afterwards, similarly I’ve been to dinner with people like that who left no tip on a $150+ bill.
blackmobius on
‘Mortgage fraud’ isnt even in the top 25 shitty things, or even top 25 serious crimes, this man has done.
Nobody here is even remotely surprised at this point.
OnDrugsTonight on
Well, of course. You need to do the thing you want to project first. And since everything is projection with that pathetic pedo, it was pretty much a given that he did the thing.
Satchik on
Best thing Democratic national party could do is to aggressively announce they will add this to list of Trump’s illegal actions for investigation once they have sufficient numbers (both houses) to impeach him out of office.
Isn’t this why he was convicted of several felonies?
ChrisEFWTX on
Elect a child rapist and felon, get a child rapist and felon.
Modmonsters on
I can’t get over the line from the White House, „Trump never has, or ever will, commit a crime.“ Yeah. The felonies he’s been charged with and the rape case he was found civilly liable in (because statute of limitations expired) beg to differ.
Maybe something good will actually come out of this, and we’ll create some mortgage fraud laws with teeth so we don’t have so many people claiming primary residence on a rental. As a former real estate agent, I can assure you this type of fraud is *extremely* common amongst individuals with more than one property.
To be fair, it isn’t always fraud. Some do actually live in the house the minimum time required to claim it as a primary residence (Letitia James, for example, which is why the charges did not stick), but most do not. In Trump’s case, one of the homes went up for rental within that time period.
Every accusation is a confession.
brain_overclocked on
>President Donald Trump’s crusade against political foes he claims have all coincidentally committed mortgage fraud may have just boomeranged and hit him square in the face.
>Records show Trump himself has done the very thing he has now routinely claimed constitutes “fraud” when it’s done by his critics, according to a new ProPublica investigation. Years before his rise to the White House, the president signed two mortgages weeks apart, declaring each as his principal residence, and then renting out both, according to a report.
>It’s the same move he branded as “deceitful and potentially criminal” when it was done by a political opponent he has since targeted.
>Records show Trump, 79, signed a mortgage on a “Bermuda style” Palm Beach house in December 1993 and, seven weeks later, a second on a neighboring seven-bedroom property—attesting that both would be his principal residence.
>The outlet found contemporary ads and spoke to the wife of his longtime real estate agent. She said the homes were marketed as rentals “from the beginning,” while there’s no evidence Trump lived in either, with legal papers from that period listing Trump Tower as his address.
>Mortgage-law experts told ProPublica that claiming multiple principal-residence loans is not illegal on its own—but the conduct matches what Trump and his loyalists at the Justice Department have labeled as fraud. “He’s going to either need to fire himself or refer himself to the Department of Justice,” said Suffolk University’s Kathleen Engel.
>A White House spokesperson told ProPublica, “President Trump’s two mortgages you are referencing are from the same lender. There was no defraudation. It is illogical to believe that the same lender would agree to defraud itself.”
>The spokesperson added that “this is yet another desperate attempt by the Left wing media to disparage President Trump with false allegations,” and said, “President Trump has never, or will ever, break the law.”
>The White House did not answer questions from ProPublica about other records—such as loan applications—that might show what Trump told the lender or whether any exceptions were granted.
>The investigation follows the administration’s crackdown led by Federal Housing Finance Agency director Bill Pulte, 37, who has said “two primary residences” should be referred for criminal investigation.
>Pulte’s office helped drive a criminal referral against New York Attorney General Letitia James, 67, over her mortgage. That case was dismissed, and a grand jury last week refused to re-indict her.
>Trump has also targeted Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook, 61, declaring he would fire her over alleged “dual primary” loans. Cook denies wrongdoing and is fighting removal.
>ProPublica previously found multiple Trump Cabinet officials also signed mortgages naming more than one “primary” home.
>In Palm Beach, Trump’s two Woodbridge Road properties—bought with Merrill Lynch loans of $525,000 and $1.2 million—carried standard clauses requiring occupancy as a principal residence within 60 days for at least a year unless the lender agreed otherwise.
>Rental listings show the larger home offered at $3,000 per day in 1997, while another advert touted “Mar-a-Lago privileges.” Bank of America, which now owns Merrill Lynch, declined to discuss the specifics.
>Even if any violation occurred, the mid-1990s loans are long since paid, and the statute of limitations has run out, the outlet notes.
>The Daily Beast has contacted the White House for comment.
BillWilberforce on
>The spokesperson added that “this is yet another desperate attempt by the Left wing media to disparage President Trump with false allegations,” and said,** “President Trump has never, or will ever, break the law.”**
How many felonies has he been convicted of? How much does he owe in civil cases, including defamation for sexual assault?
indierockrocks on
Maybe hold him accountable then?
ObjectiveFine4257 on
No shit Sherlock
PlayCertain on
No surprise. Bondi needs to investigate and prosecute immediately if fraud exists.
UnlimitedCalculus on
He’s already a felonious fraudster multiple times over. Even guilty in court, nothing happens to him. He shamelessly continues on unabated. I’m only surprised that no one just tells this toddler „no“ more often.
kevendo on
America, how have we allowed ourselves to be ruled for a decade by this fucking selfish prick? He just takes and takes everything and offers nothing back but his own greed and hatred and narcissism and validity.
When this is over some of you are going to have some apologizing to do.
The rest of us probably won’t be forgiving you.
redditknees on
As it turns out, becoming POTUS is the best way to evade the law.
kolonita on
Wealthy folks hoarding tips like dragons with gold—classic.
Im_Ashe_Man on
Of course it is! He’s all projection!
ajlorello on
Every accusation is a confession….
No-Commercial-3121 on
He was charged for this.
Timmy24000 on
That’s his ammo. Always accuse others of what you do yourself.
bordumb on
Takes one to know one
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I’m not surprised. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree (his dad for non Americans)
Who is even surprised?
Say it with me: PRO-JEC-TION
He’s rich and white, that makes it okay. Duh. /s
„He who saves his Country does not violate any Law“
-Napolean MAGAshart
the only loans he hasn’t defaulted on are the ones putin gave him.
It is not a fraud when Trump does it. And if it is, he has full immunity thanks to SCOTUS.
This is sure to upset the 78 million Americans who enthusiastically voted for a rapist.
What does the 2028 Democrat candidate for president have to say about all this? I can’t find info on their rallies and/or campaign events.
Wealthy people are often really stingy with money. A lot of people think that once you become really rich you’ll have a change of heart and be charitable and so forth because they have more money than they could ever need. But these people are often greedier than ever and don’t want to do things like tip servers. They want to get even filthier rich as they start to compare lifestyles and think they’re poor in comparison to others they know. I was traveling with a really rich guy in our group once who had tons of heavy bags that had to be carried through the airport and he didn’t tip the guy a single penny afterwards, similarly I’ve been to dinner with people like that who left no tip on a $150+ bill.
‘Mortgage fraud’ isnt even in the top 25 shitty things, or even top 25 serious crimes, this man has done.
Nobody here is even remotely surprised at this point.
Well, of course. You need to do the thing you want to project first. And since everything is projection with that pathetic pedo, it was pretty much a given that he did the thing.
Best thing Democratic national party could do is to aggressively announce they will add this to list of Trump’s illegal actions for investigation once they have sufficient numbers (both houses) to impeach him out of office.
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Lock him up
Stop nagging, terminatete HIM
Isn’t this why he was convicted of several felonies?
Elect a child rapist and felon, get a child rapist and felon.
I can’t get over the line from the White House, „Trump never has, or ever will, commit a crime.“ Yeah. The felonies he’s been charged with and the rape case he was found civilly liable in (because statute of limitations expired) beg to differ.
Maybe something good will actually come out of this, and we’ll create some mortgage fraud laws with teeth so we don’t have so many people claiming primary residence on a rental. As a former real estate agent, I can assure you this type of fraud is *extremely* common amongst individuals with more than one property.
To be fair, it isn’t always fraud. Some do actually live in the house the minimum time required to claim it as a primary residence (Letitia James, for example, which is why the charges did not stick), but most do not. In Trump’s case, one of the homes went up for rental within that time period.
Every accusation is a confession.
>President Donald Trump’s crusade against political foes he claims have all coincidentally committed mortgage fraud may have just boomeranged and hit him square in the face.
>Records show Trump himself has done the very thing he has now routinely claimed constitutes “fraud” when it’s done by his critics, according to a new ProPublica investigation. Years before his rise to the White House, the president signed two mortgages weeks apart, declaring each as his principal residence, and then renting out both, according to a report.
>It’s the same move he branded as “deceitful and potentially criminal” when it was done by a political opponent he has since targeted.
>Records show Trump, 79, signed a mortgage on a “Bermuda style” Palm Beach house in December 1993 and, seven weeks later, a second on a neighboring seven-bedroom property—attesting that both would be his principal residence.
>The outlet found contemporary ads and spoke to the wife of his longtime real estate agent. She said the homes were marketed as rentals “from the beginning,” while there’s no evidence Trump lived in either, with legal papers from that period listing Trump Tower as his address.
>Mortgage-law experts told ProPublica that claiming multiple principal-residence loans is not illegal on its own—but the conduct matches what Trump and his loyalists at the Justice Department have labeled as fraud. “He’s going to either need to fire himself or refer himself to the Department of Justice,” said Suffolk University’s Kathleen Engel.
>A White House spokesperson told ProPublica, “President Trump’s two mortgages you are referencing are from the same lender. There was no defraudation. It is illogical to believe that the same lender would agree to defraud itself.”
>The spokesperson added that “this is yet another desperate attempt by the Left wing media to disparage President Trump with false allegations,” and said, “President Trump has never, or will ever, break the law.”
>The White House did not answer questions from ProPublica about other records—such as loan applications—that might show what Trump told the lender or whether any exceptions were granted.
>The investigation follows the administration’s crackdown led by Federal Housing Finance Agency director Bill Pulte, 37, who has said “two primary residences” should be referred for criminal investigation.
>Pulte’s office helped drive a criminal referral against New York Attorney General Letitia James, 67, over her mortgage. That case was dismissed, and a grand jury last week refused to re-indict her.
>Trump has also targeted Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook, 61, declaring he would fire her over alleged “dual primary” loans. Cook denies wrongdoing and is fighting removal.
>ProPublica previously found multiple Trump Cabinet officials also signed mortgages naming more than one “primary” home.
>In Palm Beach, Trump’s two Woodbridge Road properties—bought with Merrill Lynch loans of $525,000 and $1.2 million—carried standard clauses requiring occupancy as a principal residence within 60 days for at least a year unless the lender agreed otherwise.
>Rental listings show the larger home offered at $3,000 per day in 1997, while another advert touted “Mar-a-Lago privileges.” Bank of America, which now owns Merrill Lynch, declined to discuss the specifics.
>Even if any violation occurred, the mid-1990s loans are long since paid, and the statute of limitations has run out, the outlet notes.
>The Daily Beast has contacted the White House for comment.
>The spokesperson added that “this is yet another desperate attempt by the Left wing media to disparage President Trump with false allegations,” and said,** “President Trump has never, or will ever, break the law.”**
How many felonies has he been convicted of? How much does he owe in civil cases, including defamation for sexual assault?
Maybe hold him accountable then?
No shit Sherlock
No surprise. Bondi needs to investigate and prosecute immediately if fraud exists.
He’s already a felonious fraudster multiple times over. Even guilty in court, nothing happens to him. He shamelessly continues on unabated. I’m only surprised that no one just tells this toddler „no“ more often.
America, how have we allowed ourselves to be ruled for a decade by this fucking selfish prick? He just takes and takes everything and offers nothing back but his own greed and hatred and narcissism and validity.
When this is over some of you are going to have some apologizing to do.
The rest of us probably won’t be forgiving you.
As it turns out, becoming POTUS is the best way to evade the law.
Wealthy folks hoarding tips like dragons with gold—classic.
Of course it is! He’s all projection!
Every accusation is a confession….
He was charged for this.
That’s his ammo. Always accuse others of what you do yourself.
Takes one to know one
And in other news…