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Finnlands grundlegende Sozialhilfe muss dringend reformiert werden. Die Nothilfe ist für viele zu einer Haupteinnahmequelle geworden, da mittlerweile fast 30 % der Empfänger keine Muttersprachler sind. In Helsinki kann die Unterstützung für Familien zwischen 4.000 und 5.000 Euro pro Monat betragen, zuzüglich zusätzlicher Zuschüsse für Nebenkosten, Kaution, Hobbys, Möbel und mehr. Die Leistung ist steuerfrei und eliminiert häufig den Arbeitsanreiz, da das Einkommen die Unterstützung schnell verringert.
In Finnland gibt es bereits 100.000 arbeitslose Ausländer, und die Einwanderungspolitik hat vielen den sofortigen Zugang zur Sozialversicherung ermöglicht. In anderen nordischen Ländern gelten strengere Regeln und niedrigere Leistungsniveaus, insbesondere für Migranten. Schweden geht zu einem Modell über, bei dem Einwanderer nur die Hälfte erhalten; Dänemark verlangt neun Jahre Aufenthalts- und Arbeitspflicht.
Um das Sozialsystem zu schützen, muss die Unterstützung gezielter erfolgen. Ein Vorschlag: Beschränken Sie den uneingeschränkten Zugang auf diejenigen, die seit mindestens 10 Jahren in Finnland leben.
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Von bangalimahbub
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Few points:
1. EU has repeatedly criticised Finland that the level of social security is too low: [https://yle.fi/a/74-20081049](https://yle.fi/a/74-20081049)
2. The numbers she presents are sensationalist and do not match the reality. Actually in Finland underusage of social security is more common than fraud: [https://www.soste.fi/blogikirjoitus/sosiaalietuuksien-alikaytto-on-suurempi-ongelma-kuin-niiden-vaarinkaytto/](https://www.soste.fi/blogikirjoitus/sosiaalietuuksien-alikaytto-on-suurempi-ongelma-kuin-niiden-vaarinkaytto/)
3. This is clearly unconstitutional, section 19: [https://www.finlex.fi/api/media/statute-foreign-language-translation/688686/mainPdf/main.pdf?timestamp=1999-06-10T21%3A00%3A00.000Z](https://www.finlex.fi/api/media/statute-foreign-language-translation/688686/mainPdf/main.pdf?timestamp=1999-06-10T21%3A00%3A00.000Z) I don’t doubt Vestman and his buddies will gloss over this fact.
Part of mw feels bad, part of me understands that Finland has no money so reducing social assistance is expected
If there is no money, there is no money. We cannot just tax middle class and „rich“ people until oblivion.
Tf is she talking about 1300€ for a person who lives alone? I live alone and get 400€, where the hell is my 900€??
I’m sure this too is just plain fascism, racism and bigotry, and after we’ve concluded this is the case, then we can continue throwing money away like there’s no tomorrow!
10 years is mad. so someone who’s been making a living here for, for example, 7 years is still not even close to being an acceptable citizen?
well, not as if anyone expects persut or purra to care one bit about the wellbeing of anyone not born sufficiently ‚finnish‘.
Second paragraph talks about immigrants. But the text is targeting everyone…. You can remove that second paragraph as it is irrelevant when it comes to the question of welfare AS A CONCEPT!!
That is what she is challenging and their voters will eat it up. They want welfare GONE. Entirely.
10v vaade toimeentulotuelle tappaisi koko työperäisen maahanmuuton jota Suomi kipeästi tarvitsee. Jos joku tuollainen raja täytyy olla niin sen pitäisi olla paljon matalampi sit henkilölle joka on ollut Suomessa töissä esim vuoden ja sitten vaikka itsestään johtumattomista syistä joutunut työttömäksi tms. Ei tänne muuten kukaan uskalla tulla ikinä.
Haluaisin näyttää miten hän voisi asua, jos saisi vain toimeentulotukea. Olisi hyvää idea, ennen kuin voisi leikkaa yhtään, asua samalla tilannetta kuin ne. Ei pitäisi koko aika, varmasti vain pari kuukautta riitä.
Those discretionary payments are really exactly what they sound like. According to this Helsinki had given that whopping 61 times
>Helsingin aikuissosiaalityön päällikkö Anne Qvist kertoo Iltalehdelle sähköpostitse, että ajalla 1.7.2024–30.6.2025 Helsinki myönsi maksusitoumuksia huvipuistokäynteihin 61 kertaa.
https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/ade06ae7-74fc-4f81-a4cd-41905e9d86b5
Everything is immigrant’s fault if you ask purra or PS. Ofc that’s the easy way out, blame immigrants no need to do more, enuf for their voters.
Guys the plan is clear. Have people come (despite the claims of tighter immigration), pay taxes, contribute to healthcare/retirement funds, but make them go away as soon as they’re not needed anymore just to rinse and repeat with the next wave of desperate humans involved in the current instance of whatever geopolitical spiel is at play here. They won’t collect any of the benefits they’ve paid for and while they’re here we’ll make sure to hide them as much as possible, whether it’s by covering them in construction site clothes, have them leave after delivering our food before we open our door or have them hiding in the fields picking up berries. The whole „you need to integrate“ narrative is completely bullfeces as there is virtually no incentive to push through the (ever increasing) years requried for citizenship, especially if you find yourself screwed as soon as you lose your job after years and there is almost no collateral incentive in allocating a *lot* of resources into learning the language has it has quite literally 0 value elsewhere in Europe/the World unless you choose Estonia as your fallback plan.
And for the best part, even though you keep needing these periodic waves for economic/demographic issues, you also have the guarantee that there will always be a scapegoat to blame. A beatifully crafted self fulfilling prophecy.
Afterall, has any European right wing government done *anything* lately about falling birth rates? Nope. Because if you do address the matter you’d have to tell your voters to make huge sacrifices and see no reward before 20/25 years ahve gone by, meaning you cannot capitalize politcally on the success of the initiative. It’s so much better to accept the current status quo and capitalize on it politically immediately and indefinitely.
Since when do 2child parents get 3000€ a month lol my sister is single mom with 2 kids she dont near 3000€
Current policies are attracting lots of low skill to Finland
– Students come here because of easy way to get work visa. The requirement of getting work visa in Finland is quite easy, compared to many countries. You just need a full-time contract with salary of 1200e or 1600e, no matter if it is cleaning, waiters, or anything else. While in UK, it’s very difficult. You need quite high salary. On top of that, not every job is accepted. UK has a list of employers which are allowed to sponsor work visa for universities graduates. Only these jobs with these employers are accepted for work visa after graduating. This policy makes the foreign students more hopeful that as long as they find a basic job, their life will change.
– Then after these people get permanent residence or citizenship as permanent immunity medallion, they quit their shitty jobs and switch to something better, such as staying at home to get benefits rather than doing shitty jobs. I have ever seen some nurses do this (then labor shortage in healthcare will never be solved).
This is also the reason why UK is proposing to increase requirement for permanent residency/citizenship for low-skill jobs from 5 years to 15 years, which is much longer than high-skilled jobs.