C of E stellt Tommy Robinsons Botschaft „Setze Christus wieder in Weihnachten ein“ in Frage

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/dec/07/church-of-england-campaign-challenging-tommy-robinson-put-christ-back-into-christmas-message

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    1. Gentle_Snail on

      I’ve always admired the Church of England for being the ‘chill Christianity’. 

    2. psioniclizard on

      Ok Tommy – „Puts a realisitic picture of Christ on a Christmas card“

      No – not like that!

    3. DandyLionsInSiberia on

      Criticizing Yaxely-Lennon only feeds the self-sustaining, grubby ecosystem of „unrelenting ugliness“ that he and his pathetic legions cultivate.

      He is a garden variety football hooligan who has built a lucrative, spurious career on spitting bile and fostering discrimination. His specialty is „Public Disorder and Bigotry, with Honours“..

      As for his sudden, suspicious turn toward the Good Book, taking spiritual guidance from a known, violent felon and racist loudmouth?

      He’s southern Irish Catholic background – If he’s suddenly developed a crippling need for piety and forgiveness, there are stacks of chapels he can slink off to. Plenty of places for him to receive his sacraments and perhaps a much-needed, bracing slap from one of the resident clergy.

      The sheer, sticky hypocrisy of the above probably has most reaching for a puke bag. Ugh.

    4. Efficient_Sky5173 on

      Here comes the Christo-Fascists, America’s copycats. Soon everyone will have a gun and eat burgers.

    5. thereforewhat on

      To be honest. I think the posters on the CofE side are good for highlighting Christ at Christmas. 

      Equally I don’t necessarily have a problem with more people on whatever side of the political spectrum taking more of an interest in Christianity. 

      I just hope that they end up in church and consider the real meaning of Christmas and Jesus‘ coming to save us from sin.

      I suspect some might be surprised at how diverse the average church in England is. 

    6. When did Christ leave Christmas? Does he think other religions celebrate Christmas?

    7. After-Dentist-2480 on

      Tommy Robinson wants to “put the Christ back into Christmas”?

      Did Christ preach violent crime, criminal fraud, stalking, passport fraud and contempt of court?

      I’m not a theologian, but I’d wager that Jesus Christ himself, who famously loves all of us, thinks Tommy Robinson is a malevolent arsehole.

    8. pajamakitten on

      Tommy is less of a Christian than the majority of atheists. He s the embodiment of the phrase ‚Sitting in a church makes you as much of a Christian as sleeping in a garage makes you a car.‘ He likes the imagery but I doubt he was sat in a service this morning or attends a bible study group. I know he does no charity work, like working in a soup kitchen or handing out blankets to homeless people. The CofE are right to put up these posters and organise a counter-protest, however I would also stop the flowery language and call a spade a spade.

    9. Spamgrenade on

      Race war didn’t kick off as expected so Tommy is going for a religious one instead.

    10. Worfs-forehead on

      The amount of young Christians that I’ve met is terrifying. Critical thinking has gone right down and in its place is ignorance and misogynistic opinions.

    11. thegreatnick on

      >Some Christian activists are planning a counter-event to protest at the far-right views of those organising the carol service.

      Has anyone got a name of the group of these christian activists? I have some interest in attending

    12. Easymodelife on

      It’s good to see the C of E standing up to the far-right’s attempts to use a twisted MAGA-inspired interpretation of Christianity to push an agenda that is anything but Christ-like.

      „Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.“ – Matthew 7:15

    13. Yes as in ‘Jesus Christ will you just fuck off and let me enjoy Christmas tommy’

    14. CofE is such a parody of itself at this point that they will literally countersignal their own religion to score points with guardian readers.

      Could they at least find a kinky priest to go and give a lecture about how you can not believe in god or Jesus and still be a Christian somehow?

      I’m not religious and doubt I ever will be but it’s just ridiculous seeing yet another institution get completely flanderised into a nonsensical ghost of it’s former self

    15. Stephen bunchonames is an idiot.

      Jesus was literally born an asylum seeker in a foreign land. If anything he should be anti-christmas

    16. NGeoTeacher on

      I’m a Christian and I don’t like to gatekeep faith, but this American-style Christian nationalism has absolutely no place in the UK.

      I’ve long liked this passage:

      >**^(17)** A good tree produces good fruit, and a bad tree produces bad fruit. **^(18)** A good tree can’t produce bad fruit, and a bad tree can’t produce good fruit. **^(19)** So every tree that does not produce good fruit is chopped down and thrown into the fire. **^(20)** Yes, just as you can identify a tree by its fruit, so you can identify people by their actions. (Matthew 7:17-20)

      I think it provides a pretty good way of aligning our moral compasses, and determining whether something is right or wrong. What sort of ‚fruit‘ does the action yield? Good or bad? Through this lens, it’s hard to see what good Tommy Robinson has done with his life; instead, it’s been years of increasing division and anger. I’m not ignorant to the hypocrisy of the Church, but I’m proud of the fact many churches in my area strive to do good things for their communities, without judgement. It makes for a refreshing difference to screaming down a megaphone that all the problems with society can be explained by punching down on demographics that don’t align with his ideals.

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