“So our study evolved to include a comprehensive support model, combining pharmacotherapy with trauma-informed clinical counselling, proactively following up participants, 24-hour crisis support, helping the men navigate support services and partner safety planning.” So there’s no way to know whether the results were from the counseling or from the drugs.
I knew it was Sertraline just from the headline. I used it for about two years and the anxiety and anger I was fighting with just disappeared.
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DivergentxRose on
They need stop finding reasons to push this medication.. it should be banned. This medication caused me permanent damage
poply on
>When we help men address the psychological, relational and social factors that drive their domestic violence, we’ve shown we can prevent harm before it occurs.
The sooner we realize violence is largely reflective of mental health and wellness, the sooner we can reduce violence.
Instead we offer men conflicting incentives where they’re allowed and even encouraged to beat up other men with impunity and never allowed to hurt others, such as women, and we expect men to control their lizard brains in these split section moments. Knowing which demographics you’re allowed to hurt is a cognitive decision, reacting with violence is an emotional decision. There’s an incongruencey in how those two decisions are made.
Just look at police officers. We give them all the leeway to act with violence the moment someone doesn’t want to hand over an ID, and they do that 50 hours a week for a few years and somehow when their partner is perceived as being difficult they’re supposed to resolve conflict entirely differently than how they normally do most of their day. Then the tools, like therapy, to discern and moderate these decisions are even discouraged, costly, and can risk people their jobs. And the man being the breadwinner is still a role both men and women overwhelming believe a man should fulfill.
Give anyone, man or woman, a role where conflict resolution is allowed and encouraged with violence and I suspect you’ll see a causal relationship to domestic violence.
None of this excuses domestic violence, I am only speculating on macro causes and influences. I hope to see more studies reaffirm that happy men who have their material needs and wants being met are less violent than poor unhappy men.
Kongsley on
I don’t like that this frames all men as abusers.
Mayor-Citywits on
Anecdotal but my abusive ex girlfriend stopped being physically abusive once she took seraltrine
ImReflexess on
Treating the symptom and not the cause but meh, too far gone for that solution.
ReluctantGandalf on
The other eye opening thing is that male violence can be built up by depression/ anxiety which tells me that a lot of our knee-jerk ideas on how to handle it, overall, are very wrong.
fadedv1 on
im on paxil since i was 22, im 34 now, i would not take them if i turned back time
OnePair1 on
The 1950 called. They want their solution back
TunaRice_ on
Anger is masked sadness. Not surprising. Most people with domestic violence should seek mental health treatments. Wanting to hurt your loved ones is not normal.
Hunter4-9er on
Used Sertaline for a year, great stuff with minimal effects. However, it had the opposite effect on my sexual libido and sent it through the roof! After 1 year I also had a little brain fog. But in all, it just makes you feel super chilled with life.
Careful with the dosage though, don’t do what I did and double your dose from 50mg to 100mg for 2 weeks because you needed to handle extra work stress while prepping for the CEO site visit. I didnt taper on or taper off the dosage I just changed doses immediately……….I was bed ridden for 3 days and literally could not wake up, I just slept the 3 days away.
And yes, Im an idiot.
BaronGreywatch on
Time to roll out the cannabis.
mspencerl87 on
Bro. Zoloft is f****** amazing.
Cynical_Cyanide on
Are people seriously okay with this concept to begin with?
Putting aside the narrative being pushed that, essentially, domestic violence is caused by men only – We’re going to actually suggest that pushing meds with serious, very potentially permanent side effects onto men (imagine having a temper but being innocent of any actual wrongdoing and your partner tries to pressure or guilt you into taking them citing this study or what follows it) is ethically acceptable in the slightest? I suppose anything but actually spending real money on concretely supporting and uplifting men to alleviate underlying issues and provide opportunities to be the best man they can be – *anything* but that, it would seem. This study even tries to spruik the effectiveness of the drug but chose to apply it *only* in tandem with support groups etc in an attempt to colour the results more positively. But of course, the drug prescription won’t come with that now, will it? Nor will people likely get the full picture of the side effects, which include a reduction in libido so potent that for many the effect wouldn’t be dissimilar to chemical castration. Ethical insanity.
geriatrikwaktrik on
„when we chemically castrate men, they show less anger“
dachloe on
The anti-science cult will spin this as „another attack on men an masculinity, and our traditional way of life.“
I’m just letting you know ahead of time.
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3dios on
How about men are raised to respect women and their bodies in order to tackle DV? Nothing more pathetic than a man who puts hands on a woman for any reason
where_in_the_world89 on
Not surprised at all. It brought down my anger quite a bit. But a good nutritional diet does even more for me in that regard
DaisiesSunshine76 on
My depression makes me very angry and irritable. Taking meds and going to therapy have helped me sooooo much.
eternalrevolver on
Or- how about they exercise
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i can hear rfk’s whining from here!
“So our study evolved to include a comprehensive support model, combining pharmacotherapy with trauma-informed clinical counselling, proactively following up participants, 24-hour crisis support, helping the men navigate support services and partner safety planning.” So there’s no way to know whether the results were from the counseling or from the drugs.
Also, let’s remember that you shouldn’t assume that domestic violence is mostly committed by men: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-psychiatrist/article/domestic-violence-is-most-commonly-reciprocal/C5432B0C6F8F61B49A4E2B60B931FA07
I knew it was Sertraline just from the headline. I used it for about two years and the anxiety and anger I was fighting with just disappeared.
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They need stop finding reasons to push this medication.. it should be banned. This medication caused me permanent damage
>When we help men address the psychological, relational and social factors that drive their domestic violence, we’ve shown we can prevent harm before it occurs.
The sooner we realize violence is largely reflective of mental health and wellness, the sooner we can reduce violence.
Instead we offer men conflicting incentives where they’re allowed and even encouraged to beat up other men with impunity and never allowed to hurt others, such as women, and we expect men to control their lizard brains in these split section moments. Knowing which demographics you’re allowed to hurt is a cognitive decision, reacting with violence is an emotional decision. There’s an incongruencey in how those two decisions are made.
Just look at police officers. We give them all the leeway to act with violence the moment someone doesn’t want to hand over an ID, and they do that 50 hours a week for a few years and somehow when their partner is perceived as being difficult they’re supposed to resolve conflict entirely differently than how they normally do most of their day. Then the tools, like therapy, to discern and moderate these decisions are even discouraged, costly, and can risk people their jobs. And the man being the breadwinner is still a role both men and women overwhelming believe a man should fulfill.
Give anyone, man or woman, a role where conflict resolution is allowed and encouraged with violence and I suspect you’ll see a causal relationship to domestic violence.
None of this excuses domestic violence, I am only speculating on macro causes and influences. I hope to see more studies reaffirm that happy men who have their material needs and wants being met are less violent than poor unhappy men.
I don’t like that this frames all men as abusers.
Anecdotal but my abusive ex girlfriend stopped being physically abusive once she took seraltrine
Treating the symptom and not the cause but meh, too far gone for that solution.
The other eye opening thing is that male violence can be built up by depression/ anxiety which tells me that a lot of our knee-jerk ideas on how to handle it, overall, are very wrong.
im on paxil since i was 22, im 34 now, i would not take them if i turned back time
The 1950 called. They want their solution back
Anger is masked sadness. Not surprising. Most people with domestic violence should seek mental health treatments. Wanting to hurt your loved ones is not normal.
Used Sertaline for a year, great stuff with minimal effects. However, it had the opposite effect on my sexual libido and sent it through the roof! After 1 year I also had a little brain fog. But in all, it just makes you feel super chilled with life.
Careful with the dosage though, don’t do what I did and double your dose from 50mg to 100mg for 2 weeks because you needed to handle extra work stress while prepping for the CEO site visit. I didnt taper on or taper off the dosage I just changed doses immediately……….I was bed ridden for 3 days and literally could not wake up, I just slept the 3 days away.
And yes, Im an idiot.
Time to roll out the cannabis.
Bro. Zoloft is f****** amazing.
Are people seriously okay with this concept to begin with?
Putting aside the narrative being pushed that, essentially, domestic violence is caused by men only – We’re going to actually suggest that pushing meds with serious, very potentially permanent side effects onto men (imagine having a temper but being innocent of any actual wrongdoing and your partner tries to pressure or guilt you into taking them citing this study or what follows it) is ethically acceptable in the slightest? I suppose anything but actually spending real money on concretely supporting and uplifting men to alleviate underlying issues and provide opportunities to be the best man they can be – *anything* but that, it would seem. This study even tries to spruik the effectiveness of the drug but chose to apply it *only* in tandem with support groups etc in an attempt to colour the results more positively. But of course, the drug prescription won’t come with that now, will it? Nor will people likely get the full picture of the side effects, which include a reduction in libido so potent that for many the effect wouldn’t be dissimilar to chemical castration. Ethical insanity.
„when we chemically castrate men, they show less anger“
The anti-science cult will spin this as „another attack on men an masculinity, and our traditional way of life.“
I’m just letting you know ahead of time.
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How about men are raised to respect women and their bodies in order to tackle DV? Nothing more pathetic than a man who puts hands on a woman for any reason
Not surprised at all. It brought down my anger quite a bit. But a good nutritional diet does even more for me in that regard
My depression makes me very angry and irritable. Taking meds and going to therapy have helped me sooooo much.
Or- how about they exercise