Dieser liberale Abgeordnete überlebte das Massaker von Montreal. Sie sagt, das langsame Tempo der Regierung zur Waffenkontrolle habe sie nicht aus der Fassung gebracht

    https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/this-liberal-mp-survived-the-montreal-massacre-she-says-the-slow-pace-of-the-governments/article_f7ab26f4-5c80-422a-b9c2-93815324bcb6.html

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    1. I want to believe that she’s not rattled because she knows it’s ineffective and wouldn’t address her concerns about dangerous people getting guns. But I know that’s not true.

      It’s because she’s in the government and she has to play nice with the LPC. If she had her way the laws would be even more restrictive and compensate owners even less.

    2. Ov3rReadKn1ght0wl on

      TLDR: Provost is committed to punching down on law-abiding gun owners because that’s what she values.

      The fact that she was platformed to begin with should’ve been a warning sign to many that the LPC may have been done with Trudeau, but that this didn’t mean he peddled was actually the problem. We can expect the burgundy blazer brand of neoliberalism push for more of the same with the usual country club tone and sensibilities all wrapped with the usual self-righteous ideological underpinnings to make it look good. I for one am sick of it already. I just wish we had other competent, credible alternatives around.

      Edit:

      Here is what future bans may look like based on this report: [https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/rsrcs/pblctns/fnl-rprt-frm-xprt-dvsry-pnl-frrms/index-en.aspx#a2](https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/rsrcs/pblctns/fnl-rprt-frm-xprt-dvsry-pnl-frrms/index-en.aspx#a2)

      This is the sort of decision based evidence making that the LPC will act upon for this file.

    3. Numerous-Bike-4951 on

      I think many liberal MP’s have figured out that forcing socail policies that are not effective and only pander to their base is not a effective way to run government.

      The liberals were very close to turning into the irrelevant, paralyzed Democratic party , had some one like freeland won the the leadership race the party would taken a major beating along with all the values with in it .

      Its nice to see the pragmaticism spread in the the party.

      Question is , when will the CPC figure this out in regards to operating a effective opposition party.

    4. I really can’t agree with her and her group’s gun control position, which is essentially a hate group against gun owners; given the opportunity they would ban ALL guns, but that’s not reasonable so the strategy is the death by a thousand cuts and hope they get there eventually

      Given most of the gun violence in places like Surrey BC is from illegally obtained guns, I’m not even sure what the purpose of this group is other than to enrich the people people running it and giving them a sense of pride and accomplishment by trampling on the rights of other Canadians.

      For most of the past 30 years, gun control seems like a politically safe vote winner, and it probably still is in many ridings. But given all the low hanging fruits have been plucked, this is the first time i’ve seen there’s been real pushback because of how unreasonable the Liberal legislation is. And like any muscle, gun control groups in Canada have not had to exercise justifying these laws beyond ‚lol USA‘ and those muscles have atrophied. There’s no good reason i’ve seen to ban the guns the Liberals want banned from law abiding citizens. we’re just going back to mine tragedy based decision making.

    5. There is no link between her being a victim of gun violence and her being an expert on gun policy. Provost is a fanatic who regularly spreads lies and misinformation. Carney’s gun policies fly in the face of the idea that he’s somehow leading a more serious or intelligent government than Trudeau. It’s the same old Liberals pushing policy they know is bad for political points.

    6. icedesparten on

      Unfortunately, Provost’s experiences didn’t give her any credentials to discuss firearms law, the opposite in fact.

      Her experiences have severely biased her against any sort of legal ownership and she’s taken a very strong stance of willful ignorance on the matter.

      If we were to reexamine the law based on logic and evidence, she would be very unhappy with the results.

    7. goodfleance on

      Support for this program is akin to supporting banning vaccines. Your feelings do not trump facts and the facts show that this is not effective, sensible or reasonable.

      Gun owners are 3 times LESS likely to shoot someone than the average citizen, per Stats Canada and RCMP data.

      Half a decade of real world testing has shown ZERO benefits from this. No improvement to public safety and no reduction in gun crime. Because licensed owners are not criminals.

      According to most police reporting, 85-98% of guns used in crime are illegally smuggled from America, and increasingly 3d printed. Attacking the safest demographic in the country will not fix that.

      Please, use this money for social programs that reduce poverty. THAT will have a measurable impact on crime and 750 million dollars would go a long way.

    8. bandersnatching on

      Provost is off course entitled to her opinion, and to lobby for it.

      But the government has a mandate for „gun control“ – which was implemented by the Chretien government – rather than „gun removal“ – which was imposed unilaterally by the Trudeau cabinet.

      Let’s hope the new review announced yesterday will rationalize the current regulatory chaos, leaning on data rather than opinions.

    9. PoorAxelrod on

      I wish people would just call it like it is, because there are a few things that need to be said. First, most folks in government who want to strengthen gun laws in this country do not actually know what the current laws are. Most people who do know think they are already strict enough.

      Second, if we have a problem with illegal guns in Canada, it is because they are coming from the United States. That is a border issue for us, and it is also an issue for King Oompa Loompa sitting on his tuffet in Washington DC. It is not to say we never have gun violence here, but if you look at most headlines about gun crime, they are often referring to replica firearms, BB guns, or other non-restricted items being used. Yes, there are exceptions, but overall we do not have a widespread gun problem in Canada.

      And it is important to remember that when the Ecole Polytechnique massacre happened, Canada was a very different place. The firearms laws at that time were nowhere near what they are today. The system we have now is significantly stricter, far more regulated, and shaped by decades of reform that simply did not exist back then.

      So I do not understand the point of policing law-abiding gun owners unless the real intent is to say that handguns and other firearms should not be used by anyone outside policing, the armed forces, and similar professions. If that is the position, then people should just say it. If they did, we would have a very different conversation. You would have many people who would agree with that stance, and others who would not, but at least the debate would be honest. And it would be based on Canadian realities, not imported American talking points or illegally imported weapons.

    10. Who are these people that want to live like the US? They must only exist on reddit.

      Anyway, this is a problem that will never go away but sadly, unlike something like video games, the risk with guns is real and needs to be adequately addressed.

      Unlike cars, there is very little value in harbouring these items of destruction and you really don’t need more evidence than to look at the heathens just south of us.

    11. ApprenticeWrangler on

      These anti-gun groups are extreme activists who prey on the lack of understanding of Canadian gun laws by the general population.

      Most Canadians who want to bans guns have zero idea about our current laws and how restrictive they are. Some people think “assault style” means fully automatic. Some people think we have lax handgun laws.

      The only reason there is support for these laws is because people who don’t understand our current laws see all the gun violence in the states, see the gun violence here, and somehow think that banning legal guns will have an impact.

      Almost all guns used in gun crime here are smuggled in illegally from the US, and if you want to see how well banning legal guns will work, look how great having illegal drugs works for stopping drug use.

      Criminals are not the ones following our already strict firearms laws, and making them more restrictive will have zero benefit for Canadians but will cost a billion dollars.

      I’m sick of our government listening to the loud whiny activists instead of actual experts. Activists are not experts.

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