Imagine committing war crimes on behalf of Donald fucking Trump and Pete Hegseth.
Theferael_me on
Most of them haven’t got two braincells to rub together but someone should still tell them that ‚*just following orders*‘ hasn’t been a valid defence since Nuremberg.
scrotalsmoothie on
I’m hoping the investigations and attention on the boat killings remind the troops of their sworn duties and that following orders is not a get out of jail excuse.
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Significant_Map6734 on
They’ll just get pardoned anyway.
NocturnalSaaS on
How about Pete Hegseth going to jail for the troops?
KapnKrumpin on
I mean, if they refuse orders won’t they go to jail anyways?
nosayso on
This isn’t the point they think they’re making. Orders are assumed constitutional by default, that’s a fact, so refusing an illegal order is treated by statute as refusing a legal order and you will go to jail for it. One of the 26 people charged for the My Lai massacre only went to jail, the rest were acquitted. And his jail sentence was actually house arrest on base for 4 years, a slap on the wrist for a mass murderer. Anyone who believes in the justice system here is completely delusional.
The actual ask is „please be brave enough to refuse an illegal order even though you WILL go to prison“.
Niceguy955 on
Every member of the armed forces swore an oath to protect the country from enemies, foreign and domestic. This regime is the definition of domestic enemies.
No-Commercial-3121 on
Dear Troops,
The Admiral being tossed under the bus is a prime example of what Congress member Kelly is telling you about. It is what Trump was reading during the NFL game.
You are not going to be protected. You are not going to have anyone looking out for you. You will be tossed under the bus. You will have your career ruined. Think about how hard it was to become an Admiral all those decades of perfection wasted on a National Guard and a man who avoided service by lying because they are racist liars. You and your troops will be gone and hundreds of thousands of dollars in training wasted because two racist traitors are egomaniac criminals and you, you knew better.
Signed a Veteran
DevGin on
That problem with these troops is that they are 20-25 years old and have a lot of growing up to do.
They are easy to manipulate and coerce into things. No offense, they are just not mature enough to go to jail for a lifetime over Peter or Donald’s direction.
Although I think it will happen and they will go to prison. Which, sadly, is the best we can do.
redlee415 on
Aren’t the military personnel that ordered and carried out the order all guilty of carrying out an unlawful order?
ghosttrainhobo on
Some sailors need to go to Leavenworth already
AquamannMI on
Everyone involved in this strike should go to jail, from the top down.
mrhooha on
They would happily throw you under the bus to save themselves. No doubt about it.
PensandoEnTea on
The thing is, whatever we would like to think, the military attracts an overwhelmingly conservative crew. I don’t know that I’d trust them to make that decision „correctly.“
98VoteForPedro on
If they’re willing to go to jail for him they deserve to be in jail too
Jerk182 on
Don’t go down for Donald Trump. He and Pete Hegseth are total losers and won’t last too much longer. The American people have had enough. There’s no need to jeopardize your future for an insane old fart and a greasy, drunken buffoon.
clickmagnet on
I second that sentiment. But also, troops, if you *do* commit war crimes, please fuck off to jail.
Ordinary-Lie-6780 on
We all know that a troop would suffer jail and war crime charges. Not Hagseth. And its not like Hagseth is not aware of this either.
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Imagine committing war crimes on behalf of Donald fucking Trump and Pete Hegseth.
Most of them haven’t got two braincells to rub together but someone should still tell them that ‚*just following orders*‘ hasn’t been a valid defence since Nuremberg.
I’m hoping the investigations and attention on the boat killings remind the troops of their sworn duties and that following orders is not a get out of jail excuse.
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They’ll just get pardoned anyway.
How about Pete Hegseth going to jail for the troops?
I mean, if they refuse orders won’t they go to jail anyways?
This isn’t the point they think they’re making. Orders are assumed constitutional by default, that’s a fact, so refusing an illegal order is treated by statute as refusing a legal order and you will go to jail for it. One of the 26 people charged for the My Lai massacre only went to jail, the rest were acquitted. And his jail sentence was actually house arrest on base for 4 years, a slap on the wrist for a mass murderer. Anyone who believes in the justice system here is completely delusional.
The actual ask is „please be brave enough to refuse an illegal order even though you WILL go to prison“.
Every member of the armed forces swore an oath to protect the country from enemies, foreign and domestic. This regime is the definition of domestic enemies.
Dear Troops,
The Admiral being tossed under the bus is a prime example of what Congress member Kelly is telling you about. It is what Trump was reading during the NFL game.
You are not going to be protected. You are not going to have anyone looking out for you. You will be tossed under the bus. You will have your career ruined. Think about how hard it was to become an Admiral all those decades of perfection wasted on a National Guard and a man who avoided service by lying because they are racist liars. You and your troops will be gone and hundreds of thousands of dollars in training wasted because two racist traitors are egomaniac criminals and you, you knew better.
Signed a Veteran
That problem with these troops is that they are 20-25 years old and have a lot of growing up to do.
They are easy to manipulate and coerce into things. No offense, they are just not mature enough to go to jail for a lifetime over Peter or Donald’s direction.
Although I think it will happen and they will go to prison. Which, sadly, is the best we can do.
Aren’t the military personnel that ordered and carried out the order all guilty of carrying out an unlawful order?
Some sailors need to go to Leavenworth already
Everyone involved in this strike should go to jail, from the top down.
They would happily throw you under the bus to save themselves. No doubt about it.
The thing is, whatever we would like to think, the military attracts an overwhelmingly conservative crew. I don’t know that I’d trust them to make that decision „correctly.“
If they’re willing to go to jail for him they deserve to be in jail too
Don’t go down for Donald Trump. He and Pete Hegseth are total losers and won’t last too much longer. The American people have had enough. There’s no need to jeopardize your future for an insane old fart and a greasy, drunken buffoon.
I second that sentiment. But also, troops, if you *do* commit war crimes, please fuck off to jail.
We all know that a troop would suffer jail and war crime charges. Not Hagseth. And its not like Hagseth is not aware of this either.