As a Teams and Infra admin for my division, I can tell you right now that this only exists if your company sets it up.
We are not using this.
ThrowawayAl2018 on
Define „work“, I could be reviewing code whole day without a computer, only my handwritten notes on printed paper, that is scanned & submitted for further vetting.
Personally don’t like staring at screen entire day, prefer to kill more trees and avoid straining my eyes. Trees can grow back, my eyes can’t.
itastesok on
My company doesn’t need this, as they’ve already added badge readers to exit the building, so they track both incoming and outgoing swipes.
Stilgar314 on
“When users connect to their organization’s Wi-Fi,“ Microsoft says, „Teams will automatically set their work location to reflect the building they are working in.” Wow… State-of-the-art technology
SEAN0_91 on
All this will confirm is what employees work the most efficient. If an employee is “away” for 4 hours but is doing the same as someone online for 8 hours then who’s the problem?
tiagoln on
Does this mean anything for those on home-office?
Stavtastic on
If people are active in Microsoft teams, they are not producing anything.
fingletingle on
Clickbait. If your company wants to track how you are connecting to the office network, they already can. Further, many networks restrict where an employee can even connect from.
SniffDsNutz on
I’ll be concerned when they start cracking down on – I’ve been showing available for the past 6 hrs as I’ve been on the Teams meeting I sent myself…
Azumoth on
As my manager tells me, paraphrasing: „I don’t care if you work in the office or at home, if you work 4 hours a day, or 12 hours. If you don’t get your shit done by the outlined deadlines, doesn’t matter how many hours you work, it’s not going to save you. Focus on delivery. And if things are delayed, make sure it’s not because of you.“
bdmiz on
Starting January employees have the official right to say „sod off“ to anybody who asks for help near the whiteboard or at their PC.
The next step would be the employer access to employees‘ fit devices to measure active brain time during the sleep to pay those who wake up with new ideas how to solve problems at work. Ah, no, that won’t pass legislation, it surely violates somebody’s rights.
LordOdin99 on
Once again, executives blaming workers for not doing enough rather than lowering their own pay.
grumpyfan on
A company I worked for earlier this year was already doing this.
I was in the DR one week, and had to connect with a customer for a support issue. I was online for about 15 minutes when someone from the SOC reached out to me to ask if I was connecting from the DR.
When I asked how they knew, the analyst told me Defender had reported it, which was a surprise to me.
I can understand it from a security risk standpoint, but I was also bothered by it at the time because I was supposed to be connected to my home VPN (Wireguard).
Wonderful-Group3639 on
That’s great but can’t they already do this? Most companies use VPNs to connect so they know you’re working from home if you’re using a VPN to connect to the network. They should disable the VPN completely if they want employees in the office but most want them to work from home when it benefits them such as if the office is closed or an employee cannot get to the office because of closed roads.
unirorm on
Snitches get Linux
FrontVisible9054 on
You don’t need technology to tell you if someone isn’t performing. If they are performing who gives a rat’s ass how they allocate their time in their day.
mvaaam on
Oh I’m so glad to not use any MS tech for work, whew!
Not that Slack doesn’t already show if I’m online or not, lol.
sisdog on
I can’t wait for the lawsuits for privacy concerns.
Rusalka-rusalka on
I don’t use teams so I’m good.
stedun on
Teams is the last place you’ll find work getting done.
OrangeNood on
Pretty sure IT already know that.
jacksbox on
What a gigantic nothing sandwich. Did anyone read the article?
It’s an optional feature that uses the WiFi network you’re connected to in order to automatically announce your location.
Less intrusive than automatically setting your status to „away“ when you’re idle.
And your employer already has a myriad of information about your location – assuming you’re talking about trying to hide where you’re working from – they can see the public IP address that you’re accessing company resources from, and anything else that your SSO is collecting/analyzing.
Fractured-light55 on
How does this work if you work from home? I sometimes take walks and open the phone app.
shadowedfox on
So if it’s tied to the company WiFi.. MAC address cloning and copying the ap name / password may trick it?
GamingTrend on
As somebody who has managed teams for more than two decades, let me say this loudly for the idiots who think this is a good idea: „Is the work done? Then WHY DO YOU CARE WHERE IT IS DONE FROM?!“ Stop managing people by line of sight. Are you there to make sure work gets done, or to make sure people are sitting in specific spots? If you manage this way, quit — this industry doesn’t need or want you, and you are **unfit to be a leader**.
karma3000 on
Next up:
Eyeball tracking, and stats on keystrokes per minute and mouse pointer distance covered.
Previous_Soil_5144 on
This will be happily used by the worst managers.
BlkCrowe on
Sounds like a good way to get users to try (and ultimately convert to) other tools. We can always count on Microsoft to take enshitification to the next level.
VicGenesis on
My boss doesn’t care where I’m at. Sorry if your bosses use this against you all. They suck 🙁
mazzy12345 on
Snitches get stitches.
MAwith2Ts on
These things just scream terrible management to me. If I have guys not producing, I will know it. If you are not showing up to meetings, I will know it. As long as my guys are doing their job, I frankly don’t care about their teams activity. If they want to take a meeting from the beach or at a bar, I don’t care. Want to work at 2am instead of 2pm, go for it. As long as you are on client meetings and do your work, nothing else matters to me. You can even drive for Uber while you are taking phone calls. I cannot picture a world where I feel the need to pull logs from Teams to verify your location. Also, if I have time or the need to do that, I’m not doing my job.
Nervous-Cockroach541 on
Email, teams, etc, are used to kill productivity as much as boost it. This will be no different. Employees need time to actually work without disruptions.
bagpussnz9 on
I work from hone in a rural area of NZ with starlink. my network thinks I am about 150km from my actual location – i.e. the closest groundstation.
Some of my work colleagues think NZ is part of australia anyway.
Have fun teams
chazgod on
Is it called the micromanage button?
Morden013 on
Have you heard about the new feature that comes with Windows 12?
The Chain and the lock. You are chained to your desk at the company and given a 5m radius so you can better collaborate with other prisoners kept at your workplace.
In Windows 13, they will introduce „the Zapper“. Your mouse doesn’t move, you get zapped through the collar around your neck to get you awake and punching those numbers.
The fucking ideas corporate bastards come with – observing people through camera, tracking location, making screen-snapshots, analyzing meeting transcripts with analysis who was speaking how much to optimize their performance…all a huge pile of steaming shit. The idea should be shut down before it is even put into practice.
Evil_Bonsai on
ill just close teams.
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As a Teams and Infra admin for my division, I can tell you right now that this only exists if your company sets it up.
We are not using this.
Define „work“, I could be reviewing code whole day without a computer, only my handwritten notes on printed paper, that is scanned & submitted for further vetting.
Personally don’t like staring at screen entire day, prefer to kill more trees and avoid straining my eyes. Trees can grow back, my eyes can’t.
My company doesn’t need this, as they’ve already added badge readers to exit the building, so they track both incoming and outgoing swipes.
“When users connect to their organization’s Wi-Fi,“ Microsoft says, „Teams will automatically set their work location to reflect the building they are working in.” Wow… State-of-the-art technology
All this will confirm is what employees work the most efficient. If an employee is “away” for 4 hours but is doing the same as someone online for 8 hours then who’s the problem?
Does this mean anything for those on home-office?
If people are active in Microsoft teams, they are not producing anything.
Clickbait. If your company wants to track how you are connecting to the office network, they already can. Further, many networks restrict where an employee can even connect from.
I’ll be concerned when they start cracking down on – I’ve been showing available for the past 6 hrs as I’ve been on the Teams meeting I sent myself…
As my manager tells me, paraphrasing: „I don’t care if you work in the office or at home, if you work 4 hours a day, or 12 hours. If you don’t get your shit done by the outlined deadlines, doesn’t matter how many hours you work, it’s not going to save you. Focus on delivery. And if things are delayed, make sure it’s not because of you.“
Starting January employees have the official right to say „sod off“ to anybody who asks for help near the whiteboard or at their PC.
The next step would be the employer access to employees‘ fit devices to measure active brain time during the sleep to pay those who wake up with new ideas how to solve problems at work. Ah, no, that won’t pass legislation, it surely violates somebody’s rights.
Once again, executives blaming workers for not doing enough rather than lowering their own pay.
A company I worked for earlier this year was already doing this.
I was in the DR one week, and had to connect with a customer for a support issue. I was online for about 15 minutes when someone from the SOC reached out to me to ask if I was connecting from the DR.
When I asked how they knew, the analyst told me Defender had reported it, which was a surprise to me.
I can understand it from a security risk standpoint, but I was also bothered by it at the time because I was supposed to be connected to my home VPN (Wireguard).
That’s great but can’t they already do this? Most companies use VPNs to connect so they know you’re working from home if you’re using a VPN to connect to the network. They should disable the VPN completely if they want employees in the office but most want them to work from home when it benefits them such as if the office is closed or an employee cannot get to the office because of closed roads.
Snitches get Linux
You don’t need technology to tell you if someone isn’t performing. If they are performing who gives a rat’s ass how they allocate their time in their day.
Oh I’m so glad to not use any MS tech for work, whew!
Not that Slack doesn’t already show if I’m online or not, lol.
I can’t wait for the lawsuits for privacy concerns.
I don’t use teams so I’m good.
Teams is the last place you’ll find work getting done.
Pretty sure IT already know that.
What a gigantic nothing sandwich. Did anyone read the article?
It’s an optional feature that uses the WiFi network you’re connected to in order to automatically announce your location.
Less intrusive than automatically setting your status to „away“ when you’re idle.
And your employer already has a myriad of information about your location – assuming you’re talking about trying to hide where you’re working from – they can see the public IP address that you’re accessing company resources from, and anything else that your SSO is collecting/analyzing.
How does this work if you work from home? I sometimes take walks and open the phone app.
So if it’s tied to the company WiFi.. MAC address cloning and copying the ap name / password may trick it?
As somebody who has managed teams for more than two decades, let me say this loudly for the idiots who think this is a good idea: „Is the work done? Then WHY DO YOU CARE WHERE IT IS DONE FROM?!“ Stop managing people by line of sight. Are you there to make sure work gets done, or to make sure people are sitting in specific spots? If you manage this way, quit — this industry doesn’t need or want you, and you are **unfit to be a leader**.
Next up:
Eyeball tracking, and stats on keystrokes per minute and mouse pointer distance covered.
This will be happily used by the worst managers.
Sounds like a good way to get users to try (and ultimately convert to) other tools. We can always count on Microsoft to take enshitification to the next level.
My boss doesn’t care where I’m at. Sorry if your bosses use this against you all. They suck 🙁
Snitches get stitches.
These things just scream terrible management to me. If I have guys not producing, I will know it. If you are not showing up to meetings, I will know it. As long as my guys are doing their job, I frankly don’t care about their teams activity. If they want to take a meeting from the beach or at a bar, I don’t care. Want to work at 2am instead of 2pm, go for it. As long as you are on client meetings and do your work, nothing else matters to me. You can even drive for Uber while you are taking phone calls. I cannot picture a world where I feel the need to pull logs from Teams to verify your location. Also, if I have time or the need to do that, I’m not doing my job.
Email, teams, etc, are used to kill productivity as much as boost it. This will be no different. Employees need time to actually work without disruptions.
I work from hone in a rural area of NZ with starlink. my network thinks I am about 150km from my actual location – i.e. the closest groundstation.
Some of my work colleagues think NZ is part of australia anyway.
Have fun teams
Is it called the micromanage button?
Have you heard about the new feature that comes with Windows 12?
The Chain and the lock. You are chained to your desk at the company and given a 5m radius so you can better collaborate with other prisoners kept at your workplace.
In Windows 13, they will introduce „the Zapper“. Your mouse doesn’t move, you get zapped through the collar around your neck to get you awake and punching those numbers.
The fucking ideas corporate bastards come with – observing people through camera, tracking location, making screen-snapshots, analyzing meeting transcripts with analysis who was speaking how much to optimize their performance…all a huge pile of steaming shit. The idea should be shut down before it is even put into practice.
ill just close teams.