„Carspreading“ ist auf dem Vormarsch – und nicht jeder freut sich darüber
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy7vdvl2531o
Von Alert-One-Two
„Carspreading“ ist auf dem Vormarsch – und nicht jeder freut sich darüber
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy7vdvl2531o
Von Alert-One-Two
29 Kommentare
When we are slowly becoming like the US, expect shit like this.
Going to be funny when someone tries driving their large SUV down one of those very old, very small village roads and just can’t. I’ll stick to my hatchback, thank you.
There’s a distinction between smaller to midsize SUVs and the behemoths that just seem like they don’t belong in the UK. Take the X5 for example. Everytime I see that car on the road I wonder how they manage to park.
Added benefit for me is second hand saloons are so much cheaper at least.
„On a Monday morning with three boys, three school bags, three sports kits, and a trumpet thrown in the boot there isn’t even room in the car for the dog!“
Really? I think I could fit that in a coupé.
Call me a snob (I am but I know I am!) but I would be happier if people just said “I own an SUV because I’m basic and can’t have a smaller car than the neighbours” at least it would show they know themselves and make considered decisions based on that.
The major misstep this article makes is that it lays much of the blame on the consumer. Car companies *want* to sell SUVs over saloons and hatchbacks because it’s more profitable. A lot of them are phasing non-SUVs out of their range.
Ford retired the Mondeo and the Fiesta, which were both still popular up to the very end of their production, and replaced them both with the Puma. If you want a new hatchback from Ford, sorry! You can’t. Crossover SUVs it is.
I suspect many, many Puma buyers would be just as happy with a Fiesta if it were still on the showroom. Consumer choices are not entirely self-directed. If car companies want customers to buy SUVs, they will buy SUVs. It’s simply easier to go along with what you’re given than push back, and that’s true in many areas in life. Path of least resistance and all that.
Tax cars by width. It would fix the budget very quickly
The article, and many people, focus on SUVs.
But compare a Polo from 2000 to a Polo today. Do the same for the Golf, a Citreon C3 etc.
They have all got bigger and heavier. That is better safety features.
A VW T Roc SUV is based on the same chassis as the Golf.
Despite being an SUV, the T Toc is shorter and narrower than a Golf. It is taller and has 17% more boot space.
„fit a 3 foot length of pipe in it“ – Is this guy thick. You can fit that in any car. That’s 90cm. You could put that sideways in a hatchback of literally any brand.
Talk about grasping at straws. Estates are better than a land rover anyway when it comes to fitting shit in. You can put a 6 by 3 foot length of plasterboard in a Passat and it weight about a third less.
Ugh does every concept need a social media nickname?
Didn’t Jeremy Clarkson & co take a massive Hummer around some small English villages causing their usual brand of mayhem? They and local motorists were not impressed.
I don’t have an issue with people buying whatever cars they want
I have a family of three and for nearly all situations we are happy with our old Toyota Yaris.
I wonder how much of the difference in size is due to internal dimensions. I remember being in cars in the 80s with friends and you’d almost be touching elbows. Now every car has a big old space between the seats.
I’m not convinced designers are doing their best to keep size and weight down tbh. A lot of the space at the very front of a car is just plastic and air.
Can’t even fit three car seats (across the back row) in most SUVs so their size is confusing to me.
Had to rent a car a few months ago. I got the smallest car on purpose, it wasn’t ready when i was there so they ‚upgraded‘ my car to a bigger one. Then the place got really fucking busy as I waited every everybody was ‚upgraded‘ to bigger cars… Every call the staff had with people was about ‚upgrading‘ to bigger cars. And there were people in there who genuinely only cared about how big the car was.
What the fuck is this all about? I don’t get it. I want a car that is efficient, I can get the stuff I need in there and get from A to B. Since when is having a big car the thing. And why? Obviously I see all the huge cars on the road and that these cars have all got bigger, but it’s a bit fucking dumb?
The car I got was big on the outside but like a reverse Tardis. Tiny inside. I made as much room as I could for me behind the wheel but hardly fucking fit there and if there was passengers there just wasn’t any fucking room there at all. I’ve owned smaller cars that were much more spacious. Silly shit. People confuse me.
BBC with another hot take, only 25 years behind the curve.
What cars are in the graphic? Looks like a Sportage at the back. Not sure about the one at the front but it reeks of inaccurate scale for effect.
As is mentioned in the article, cars ARE bigger. It’s not the 70s any more. Look at at any small car. And what model sits between a ’small‘ compact and an ‚SUV‘ offering??? And there’s less space inside now because all the modern equipment has to go somewhere e.g. the Peugeot 208 cockpit, plus there’s little room around the clutch pedal on a Corsa. 🤷♂️
I understand why some families opt for SUVs. I quite like a few of them but I’ve stuck to hatchbacks and saloons but each time I have to put my daughter into her car seat I do wish I had the extra height of an SUV.
They are getting to be a bit too big when parking though and either car parks need to increase the space sizes and reduce the capacity of the car park or just change a percentage to the larger cars and make them pay more than the usual cars. I know Bath already charges more for parking if your car pollutes more
Get these these large cars off the road …they are dangerous
I like the idea of taxing these cuntmobiles per kg if they’re above a certain weight.
It’s utter madness to let these infernal fucking vehicles become so commonplace here.
All cars should be taxed by weight to discourage heavier cars that damage the roads significantly more than lighter cars
I’ve lived rurally pretty much my entire life except for a short time when I went to Uni.
I’ve never owned an SUV nor has anyone in my family. Give me saloon or a hatch any day.
For family duties my dad had large Mondeo-sized hatches and then later estates. Estate cars are amazing and it’s a massive shame they died for the less spacious, slower, and less fuel efficient SUV.
Hell, I’d take a people career over an SUV.
How am I meant to pick up the local tennis coach and my flax seeds from the farmers market if I can’t have a big car?
I have to get my children Xander, Poppy, and Hubert in the back of the car too. And drive cranberry my toy poodle to his doggy date every Tuesday.
Lots of people who don’t drive cars in this thread…
I find reddits hate of larger vehicles entertaining tbh
I had an Espero saloon 1.8L car when my four were young.
Four kids, large silver cross pram in the boot, three booster/ child seats etc.
That car was still smaller than some of the SUVs out there now. I honestly don’t see the point in a car that’s the size of an American pickup truck, especially on U.K. roads.
Now they are older & I swapped to my Mini – a Mini that was rear ended by a van a month ago and had minimal damage because it’s a sturdy little car. I’d still trust my Mini over some enormous crumple zone cars🤷♀️
I delivered a temp car to a lady whose car was being repaired
She went ballistic because she got a Corsa instead of a Mokka
The Corsa wouldn’t have enough room for the kids
Lady had two primary school-age boys
This is a real selfish point on my part, but I commute via motorcycle, and the slow uptick in these monstrous cars is causing both annoyance, but also genuine safety concerns for me.
The folks driving these things don’t drive for the size! They don’t check the huge blindspots, they squeeze into gaps they can’t fit when changing lane, I’m so worried I’m going to get taken out by an impatient commuter weaving lanes one day. Not to mention because of the size I’m likely to go under and get squashed by a wheel than go over the top and roll like with a normal size car.
The annoyance to me is they’re bigger than a lane in size in some cases so I can’t filter through heavy traffic when I come across these things.. a selfish point but it’s insane how fat these things are!
I have been saying for years that car tax should go by weight.
I wish people would stop “ Carsplaining “ to me. Its quite offensive