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    2. serce__ on

      It’s ironic that those who push to destroy privacy, have their names redacted from official documents to protect their anonymity. 

    5. davidov92 on

      Should this come to fruition, I am 100% becoming a wumao. At least China’s totalitarian control measures come with high speed rail.

    6. enkolainen on

      For the record, this is not voted by the people of Sweden. Its voted by elected politicians here.

    7. ReadToW on

      Totalitarianism is about the rise in popularity of radical and populist parties that will destroy independent institutions.

      But this law is disgusting, yes. E2EE must be protected (and everything you write on public social networks must be treated with the same responsibility as if you said it on the street).

    8. Shodan76 on

      I’m surprised that Italy with our neofascist government is against. Or maybe they’re just afraid it would be used to expose some white collar crime.

    9. Top-Egg1266 on

      Nothing has passed. There’s a huge difference between the council and the Parliament.

    11. abandonedtulpa on

      Last two times this got posted it got deleted by the mods. Let’s see how long they keep this one up. 🙂

    13. The_Valerios on

      How nice it is when a law that interests the right lobbies is repeated endlessly, not to mention that politicians are exempt due to „professional secrecy“, the thing that scares me is that no newspaper in my country is talking about it.

    15. DTMN13 on

      I contacted my local MEP’s and I may as well have written an email, printed it, and stapled it to the wall of my local centre for the blind for them to read because their responses would’ve better reflected the gravity of the situation and they wouldn’t even know what I had written.

      I swear only the moronic and the power hungry are attracted to public office.

    16. Meckload on

      Can someone say more specifically what was passed at the council and how it changes the status quo?

    18. Pr-Youens on

      eu is becoming dictatorship like North Korea, but still blames Russia and china for censorship issues)))

    19. ahernandez50 on

      What are you, a russian troll? Chat control should not pass, but this in no means would turn the EU into a totalitarian region. If you care about totalitarianism, start speaking out against RUSSIA and the USA, where the real dangers are.

    20. Technical-Motor5944 on

      If this passes we’re no better than China. At least in China we’d get totalitarianism with a high speed rail and skyscrapers

    21. poetry404 on

      Chat control would maybe a bigger mistake for EU than Brexit was for the UK.

      And it is one more act of war from outside of EU, to fight us without weapons, from within.

    22. ParalimniX on

      2018: Your data is important so we are gonna pass the GDPR law to limit amd regulate the companies handling them

      2025: so, we wanna like monitor every chat you have, everything you say because… kids..

    24. Donnie619 on

      This was talked about in r/Bulgaria yesterday briefly. Turns out thay whoever tries to reach out to out politicians, they simply block the emails. So our dumb motherfuckers choose to be deaf and blind, and we are too out of reach to do anything at all.

      Active protests should be organised in front of the Council of EU in Brussel. This is the only way to be heard.

    26. UnhappyStrain on

      I don’t have any illusions that its gonna work, but I’m doing it out of spite

    27. RainyBeast736 on

      Instead of spying on citizens, why don’t we start spying on politicians to see who is paying them?

    28. VLamperouge on

      I mean, not that I completely disagree with the title of the post, but you’re literally showing that individual member states are voting for the totalitarian proposal, it hasn’t even gone past trilogue yet.

    31. AramisFR on

      How can we be taken seriously when talking about human rights when every „liberal“ country votes yes and the no comes from Italy and Poland rofl

    36. Kheyrark on

      I’m sorry but sending emails will do nothing what we need is go outside and manifest. 

    38. patomik on

      How come that in Slovakia out of 15 there are 8 opposing yet Slovakia is labeled as supporting ?

    39. michalzxc on

      Poland will not sign it, Tusk’s first government almost fell because of ACTA, so he will not take that risk

    41. i010011010 on

      Unfortunately, privacy has very few advocates among liberals or conservatives. Government tends to side on increased control and increased surveillance regardless of who is in power. Doesn’t matter if you’re in Europe or the United States, you can always count on these to pass and that will remain true unless the people voting on it personally fear some stake in it.

    43. Glorbo_Neon_Warlock on

      Anyone who thinks this may be a good thing to „protect the children“ or to „curb Russian disinformation“ or whatever… Consider this: What happens when the next Hitler rises somewhere in Europe? What happens when the next genocidal dictator has direct and easy access to everyone’s personal messages and their identities connected to everything they do online, on GPS tracking devices everyone keeps on them at all times? Are we really so fucking stupid we think that can never happen again?

    45. dilsency on

      Can’t wait until all chats are of good morals™ and government sanctioned.

    47. ihavenoidea6668 on

      People: „Let’s make an organization with almost unlimited power.“

      The same people: „Why this organization wants chat control?“

    48. Turbulent_Pin7635 on

      Which privacy we are talking about? The bigtechs has control all over our data. All of it. Try to save a single .docx in your PC, try it, it is almost mandatory to save it in one drive. The keyboard in your phone? Gboard. Your pictures all over clouds. Your behavior in social media? Each little parameter is noted. I’ll not even mention the social engineering produced by ragebait all over internet.

      Europe is taking a good step with this. China has their own social media, search engine and gps. It is not by chance that it is thriving while the west struggle to explain why nazism is bad, vaccines work and that the Holocaust happened.

      I am a simple man, I see the Big techs crying I know it is the right thing.

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