Newsprint journalism in crisis. Then again most are WFH probably.
Impossible-Bar8099 on
Personally, I’d rather they get a longer ban and have to do more to get their license back. Alcolocks treat the drunk driver as if their drinking whilst driving problem has to be mitigated, in order to enable their right to drive to be respected, rather than them losing their privelege of driving.
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henry_blackie on
>The RAC says the poll, which they commissioned, shows UK drivers are „very keen for something different to be done“ to combat drink-driving.
It’s hard to tell without seeing the poll, but I’d be very interested to know if people want something different or just want more to be done.
In theory, an alcohol lock doesn’t seem like a bad idea, but I find it hard to imagine that people would want it to become an alternative to driving bans or prison time.
Sonchay on
I would rather lifetime bans for drunk drivers and far higher (across the board) sentences for driving without a licence. If you have shown once you have risked people’s lives to drive, there isn’t a good reason why society should take another chance on you.
Comfortable_Walk666 on
Breathalysers?
No, life time ban for drunk driving.
HandGrindMonkey on
Had to some digging on this. 1,763 drivers interviewed, 58% agreed with the statement. Not sure if that counts as ‚most drivers‘ in the UK though.
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Dude4001 on
Perhaps we should tackle drinking culture, and assess the fact that there’s no public transport and taxis are expensive?
vexatiousmonkey on
Survey results prove exactly what survey wanted to prove, and by a wide margin. Something seems fishy…
Adam-West on
I’ll support any kind of enforcement that will keep my premiums lower.
BlackCaesarNT on
Scenes when we all becomes Plurbs and Ronnie Dickhead can’t drive his car because it has an alcolock.
wkavinsky on
It’d probably be more accurate to say that drivers want them fitted to *everyone else’s* cars, and not their own.
When it’s someone else, it’s not a controversial opinion to fit them – only when someone suggests fitting it to **your** car.
FitSolution2882 on
Financial penalties and seizing of the vehicle involved is also important.
– knowingly allowing someone who is over the limit to drive your vehicle? Your vehicle is seized and sold at auction, plus a fine for you (as well as the driver being prosecuted).
– claiming you didn’t „allow“ them to take the vehicle? Then the drunk driver ALSO gets done for vehicle theft in addition to the dui prosecution.
Many of these people will be using shared or family cars. I know from personal experience that many of their close ones know full well the driver is over the limit but fail to act.
I used to drink HEAVILY in the past but I NEVER drove until at least 36 hours later.
andimacg on
Might be a hot take but I would just ban them, permanently.
If they are willing to get behind the wheel after drinking they are not responsible enough to operate a car. I know one girl who did it, got caught and got a slap on the wrist, then did it again just a few weeks later and hit a parked van.
There is NO excuse for drink driving, none, and if the penalty was a perma-ban from driving, I think we would see less of it.
chronicnerv on
This is in the process of being solved because unless you are wealthy you wont be driving a car when there is no employment to sustain the function of one.
TheDayWalkerCGI on
„Most people“ out of the 5 police that took the survey.
NGeoTeacher on
I’d personally rather they were just banned from driving. There is no excuse for drink driving. Everybody knows your risk of having an accident increases if you’ve had alcohol. You are knowingly putting everyone at risk by getting behind the wheel.
Low-Associate-8853 on
I think phone companies should block any use of the device whilst driving
mikolv2 on
I still don’t get why we’re so soft on people breaking the law in a car. If you drink drive, that should be it for you, what reason is there to ever allow that person to drive again? It wasn’t a mistake, it was a deliberate choice.
Goblin_Deez_ on
It won’t work. You can get around a breathalyser with one of those tiny hand held vacuum cleaner or leaf blower. There’s always ways around things like this and drinkers will work it out.
pppppppppppppppppd on
Didn’t even know these were a thing, but I fully support the idea now that I’m aware.
me_thisfuckingcunt on
Alcolocks assume you’re going to drive on national roads, they would stop me from moving my car out of the way on my drive when another guest arrives mid party, I’m really not a fan of the presumption of guilt
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Newsprint journalism in crisis. Then again most are WFH probably.
Personally, I’d rather they get a longer ban and have to do more to get their license back. Alcolocks treat the drunk driver as if their drinking whilst driving problem has to be mitigated, in order to enable their right to drive to be respected, rather than them losing their privelege of driving.
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>The RAC says the poll, which they commissioned, shows UK drivers are „very keen for something different to be done“ to combat drink-driving.
It’s hard to tell without seeing the poll, but I’d be very interested to know if people want something different or just want more to be done.
In theory, an alcohol lock doesn’t seem like a bad idea, but I find it hard to imagine that people would want it to become an alternative to driving bans or prison time.
I would rather lifetime bans for drunk drivers and far higher (across the board) sentences for driving without a licence. If you have shown once you have risked people’s lives to drive, there isn’t a good reason why society should take another chance on you.
Breathalysers?
No, life time ban for drunk driving.
Had to some digging on this. 1,763 drivers interviewed, 58% agreed with the statement. Not sure if that counts as ‚most drivers‘ in the UK though.
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Perhaps we should tackle drinking culture, and assess the fact that there’s no public transport and taxis are expensive?
Survey results prove exactly what survey wanted to prove, and by a wide margin. Something seems fishy…
I’ll support any kind of enforcement that will keep my premiums lower.
Scenes when we all becomes Plurbs and Ronnie Dickhead can’t drive his car because it has an alcolock.
It’d probably be more accurate to say that drivers want them fitted to *everyone else’s* cars, and not their own.
When it’s someone else, it’s not a controversial opinion to fit them – only when someone suggests fitting it to **your** car.
Financial penalties and seizing of the vehicle involved is also important.
– knowingly allowing someone who is over the limit to drive your vehicle? Your vehicle is seized and sold at auction, plus a fine for you (as well as the driver being prosecuted).
– claiming you didn’t „allow“ them to take the vehicle? Then the drunk driver ALSO gets done for vehicle theft in addition to the dui prosecution.
Many of these people will be using shared or family cars. I know from personal experience that many of their close ones know full well the driver is over the limit but fail to act.
I used to drink HEAVILY in the past but I NEVER drove until at least 36 hours later.
Might be a hot take but I would just ban them, permanently.
If they are willing to get behind the wheel after drinking they are not responsible enough to operate a car. I know one girl who did it, got caught and got a slap on the wrist, then did it again just a few weeks later and hit a parked van.
There is NO excuse for drink driving, none, and if the penalty was a perma-ban from driving, I think we would see less of it.
This is in the process of being solved because unless you are wealthy you wont be driving a car when there is no employment to sustain the function of one.
„Most people“ out of the 5 police that took the survey.
I’d personally rather they were just banned from driving. There is no excuse for drink driving. Everybody knows your risk of having an accident increases if you’ve had alcohol. You are knowingly putting everyone at risk by getting behind the wheel.
I think phone companies should block any use of the device whilst driving
I still don’t get why we’re so soft on people breaking the law in a car. If you drink drive, that should be it for you, what reason is there to ever allow that person to drive again? It wasn’t a mistake, it was a deliberate choice.
It won’t work. You can get around a breathalyser with one of those tiny hand held vacuum cleaner or leaf blower. There’s always ways around things like this and drinkers will work it out.
Didn’t even know these were a thing, but I fully support the idea now that I’m aware.
Alcolocks assume you’re going to drive on national roads, they would stop me from moving my car out of the way on my drive when another guest arrives mid party, I’m really not a fan of the presumption of guilt