This is going to get so many downvotes but fuck it.
Hiding your identity on the internet should not be considered free speech.
Servers are privately owned, services provided are potentially damaging to children.
The idea that the internet is even a vessel for speech in the first place is a terrible joke. Where is there free speech on the internet? Reddit? X?
Grow up.
vagabond_nerd on
The internet is going to suck
theverge on
Thanks for sharing this! Here’s a bit from the article:
For years, lawmakers at the state and federal levels have tried a variety of measures aimed at making kids safer on the internet, from kids-tailored design standards to age verification for individual websites. More recently, a new model has caught on in the states, and now it’s gaining steam in Congress: putting the onus on app stores nationwide.
The new approach to age verification orders mobile app stores to verify users’ ages, then send that information to apps when users download them. The idea has been around for a while, but it was just this year that the first of these laws was passed in Utah, quickly followed by versions in several other states. On Tuesday, it appeared in Congress as part of a package of kids safety legislation as the App Store Accountability Act (ASA), earlier introduced by Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) and Rep. John James (R-MI).
The bill is set to be discussed in a hearing before a powerful House committee that’s considering the large package of kids online safety bills. It comes just as the bill has picked up a new industry supporter, Pinterest. “We need to ensure that our kids are safe and parents have peace of mind from the moment their device is first turned on,” CEO Bill Ready says in a statement. “By making app stores the center for age verification, the App Store Accountability Act sets a clear standard for youth online safety.” Companies like Meta, Snap, and X have also expressed broad support for the app store approach and applauded the federal bill when it was introduced.
Why should society be punished for bad parenting? I don’t have kids so why should I have to abide by the “think of the children” narrative when it’s a false flag for more control. Bad parents are to blame for idiot spawn and shouldn’t be my problem and I’m not even remotely sorry for this comment
GamingTrend on
Tell ya what, why don’t you guys police the folks raping and trafficking kids, then we’ll talk about your grossly ineffective bullshit.
SocksOnHands on
I’m glad I was a teenager in the early 2000s when the Internet was an unregulated wild west and you never knew what you might happen to stumble upon.
So_spoke_the_wizard on
Another industry that leaves the US due to regulations.
NeedleworkerChoice89 on
Republicans: Deathly afraid of kids wanking it, raging hard when kids get shot to death.
SmoovCatto on
age verification = surrendering ID, so your every move can be tracked by people of the caliber who stop you for „acting suspicious“ . . .
professorjade on
Hence, kids ruin everything
ScarletJew72 on
This has nothing to do with user safety, and everything to do with a national database of everyone’s internet usage.
deflatedcumsack on
Please can reddit implement this so I can finally break my reddit addiction and go outside
Et_Crudites on
The powerful porn magazine lobby is behind this.
adbr34k on
Unfortunately, i think that internet-wide age verification is going to happen one way or another. i think the only way to do this in a way that won’t destroy what little privacy the internet has left is to make it device-bound and structured in such a way that no other identifying information other than a user’s age is transmitted.
I don’t see an issue with Apple, for example, implementing an anonymized handshake when a user requests an app download EXCLUSIVELY to confirm the user above the required age. Ideally in Boolean form.
Anything above and beyond that is a terrible, terrible idea that will only serve the surveillance state (Which is congress’s real goal, in case there was any confusion about that)
ienjoymen on
I will simply never give my ID to anyone on the internet. I’d rather not use it.
Limp_Distribution on
What happened to making parents responsible for their children?
Mizuli on
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PEOPLE PUSH BACK AGAINST THIS!!!
sfriedrich on
This has nothing at all to do with child safety and everything to do with big-brother record keeping everywhere you go and everything you read and everything that you type and say and adding it all to your dossier.
It’s „**Minority Report“** pre-crime brought to life.
Good luck and God help us all.
ChochMcKenzie on
We need kid-friendly devices with parental locks, and parents who give a shit enough to use them.
GreyBeardEng on
AKA: a great way to gather data on people
DopamineSavant on
It definitely sucks for people that aren’t tech savvy. I’ll be doing everything in my power to circumvent it.
Hobotronacus on
On the plus side, that’s gonna get me off of social media entirely
mtcwby on
Sounds like swimming in a barrel while the security scammers get to shoot at you.
Present-Wonder-4522 on
Small government. Yada yada….
This will be weaponized. Prepare to like dear leaders posts, or ice will find you aren’t patriotic enough and disappear you.
I’m gonna go and make my own internet. With blackjack and hookers!
SheetzoosOfficial on
Anything to distract from the fact that Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. The billionaires SA minors with impunity.
Pixel_Lincoln on
The Republicans want to ban porn, but just outright doing that would be too unpopular, so they are doing this. They know most porn sites will pull access from a state than be liable for data collection of sensitive information.
firedrakes on
Really sounds like nazi…now
shibbster on
I just got a call from one of their lobbyists. They said they were calling me to get me to call my Representatives office after saying it was a plan to verify minors ages on mobile devices for the children’s safety, specifically on the Play Store.
So I asked who was paying them to conduct these calls. Specifically which PAC.
„Oh uh… we’ll forward you to Rep XYZ office.“
Im not going to lobby to require myself to provide ID when I download a goddamn recipe app, when the fucking wireless bill is in my name. Parents, control your fucking kids and maybe dont give them smart phones.
notPabst404 on
The VPN shareholders act.
DarkDog81 on
Can we put a max age on it as well and keep some of them off of it?
oldcreaker on
Building your own PC is going to get very popular again with teenagers.
missingpineapples on
Can parents maybe take a more active interest in what their kids do instead of making it everyone’s problem please?
notPabst404 on
Why is it always absolutely anything other than regulating social media companies? We all KNOW that the corporate interests of social media directly conflicting with making discourse and content less toxic is the problem yet absolutely no one is proposing to fix it.
zeptyk on
yeah if it gets bad here ill just stay offline and communicate via pigeon, ive had enough I dont think ill really give a damn about losing the convenience atp lol
notPabst404 on
> Lee says. “I think most people at most of these companies probably do want to protect kids.”
These are the kind of morons trying to pass age verification 🤦♂️.
whiskeysli on
Both Google & Apple provide parental controls around child app store accounts. You can opt to require approval. So…I call bullshit. I would recommend that everyone mention things like this when you contact your representatives in Congress.
series-hybrid on
And once there’s a data breach, scammers will have the birthdate and names of tens of millions of Americans.
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Here a list of other bad US internet bills and how to contact your Rep.
http://www.badinternetbills.com
Support the EFF and FFTF.
Link to there sites
http://www.eff.org
http://www.fightforthefuture.org
And Free Speech Coalition
http://www.freespeechcoalition.com
This is going to get so many downvotes but fuck it.
Hiding your identity on the internet should not be considered free speech.
Servers are privately owned, services provided are potentially damaging to children.
The idea that the internet is even a vessel for speech in the first place is a terrible joke. Where is there free speech on the internet? Reddit? X?
Grow up.
The internet is going to suck
Thanks for sharing this! Here’s a bit from the article:
For years, lawmakers at the state and federal levels have tried a variety of measures aimed at making kids safer on the internet, from kids-tailored design standards to age verification for individual websites. More recently, a new model has caught on in the states, and now it’s gaining steam in Congress: putting the onus on app stores nationwide.
The new approach to age verification orders mobile app stores to verify users’ ages, then send that information to apps when users download them. The idea has been around for a while, but it was just this year that the first of these laws was passed in Utah, quickly followed by versions in several other states. On Tuesday, it appeared in Congress as part of a package of kids safety legislation as the App Store Accountability Act (ASA), earlier introduced by Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) and Rep. John James (R-MI).
The bill is set to be discussed in a hearing before a powerful House committee that’s considering the large package of kids online safety bills. It comes just as the bill has picked up a new industry supporter, Pinterest. “We need to ensure that our kids are safe and parents have peace of mind from the moment their device is first turned on,” CEO Bill Ready says in a statement. “By making app stores the center for age verification, the App Store Accountability Act sets a clear standard for youth online safety.” Companies like Meta, Snap, and X have also expressed broad support for the app store approach and applauded the federal bill when it was introduced.
Read more: [https://www.theverge.com/policy/830877/app-store-age-verification-act-pinterest-endorsement](https://www.theverge.com/policy/830877/app-store-age-verification-act-pinterest-endorsement)
Why should society be punished for bad parenting? I don’t have kids so why should I have to abide by the “think of the children” narrative when it’s a false flag for more control. Bad parents are to blame for idiot spawn and shouldn’t be my problem and I’m not even remotely sorry for this comment
Tell ya what, why don’t you guys police the folks raping and trafficking kids, then we’ll talk about your grossly ineffective bullshit.
I’m glad I was a teenager in the early 2000s when the Internet was an unregulated wild west and you never knew what you might happen to stumble upon.
Another industry that leaves the US due to regulations.
Republicans: Deathly afraid of kids wanking it, raging hard when kids get shot to death.
age verification = surrendering ID, so your every move can be tracked by people of the caliber who stop you for „acting suspicious“ . . .
Hence, kids ruin everything
This has nothing to do with user safety, and everything to do with a national database of everyone’s internet usage.
Please can reddit implement this so I can finally break my reddit addiction and go outside
The powerful porn magazine lobby is behind this.
Unfortunately, i think that internet-wide age verification is going to happen one way or another. i think the only way to do this in a way that won’t destroy what little privacy the internet has left is to make it device-bound and structured in such a way that no other identifying information other than a user’s age is transmitted.
I don’t see an issue with Apple, for example, implementing an anonymized handshake when a user requests an app download EXCLUSIVELY to confirm the user above the required age. Ideally in Boolean form.
Anything above and beyond that is a terrible, terrible idea that will only serve the surveillance state (Which is congress’s real goal, in case there was any confusion about that)
I will simply never give my ID to anyone on the internet. I’d rather not use it.
What happened to making parents responsible for their children?
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PEOPLE PUSH BACK AGAINST THIS!!!
This has nothing at all to do with child safety and everything to do with big-brother record keeping everywhere you go and everything you read and everything that you type and say and adding it all to your dossier.
It’s „**Minority Report“** pre-crime brought to life.
Good luck and God help us all.
We need kid-friendly devices with parental locks, and parents who give a shit enough to use them.
AKA: a great way to gather data on people
It definitely sucks for people that aren’t tech savvy. I’ll be doing everything in my power to circumvent it.
On the plus side, that’s gonna get me off of social media entirely
Sounds like swimming in a barrel while the security scammers get to shoot at you.
Small government. Yada yada….
This will be weaponized. Prepare to like dear leaders posts, or ice will find you aren’t patriotic enough and disappear you.
Magazines and VHS are about to make a comeback.
Would this help with bots and trolls?
[time to dust off your flash drives](https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/cuba-el-paquete-internet-wifi-havana-1.3527274)
Such a bad idea
I’m gonna go and make my own internet. With blackjack and hookers!
Anything to distract from the fact that Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. The billionaires SA minors with impunity.
The Republicans want to ban porn, but just outright doing that would be too unpopular, so they are doing this. They know most porn sites will pull access from a state than be liable for data collection of sensitive information.
Really sounds like nazi…now
I just got a call from one of their lobbyists. They said they were calling me to get me to call my Representatives office after saying it was a plan to verify minors ages on mobile devices for the children’s safety, specifically on the Play Store.
So I asked who was paying them to conduct these calls. Specifically which PAC.
„Oh uh… we’ll forward you to Rep XYZ office.“
Im not going to lobby to require myself to provide ID when I download a goddamn recipe app, when the fucking wireless bill is in my name. Parents, control your fucking kids and maybe dont give them smart phones.
The VPN shareholders act.
Can we put a max age on it as well and keep some of them off of it?
Building your own PC is going to get very popular again with teenagers.
Can parents maybe take a more active interest in what their kids do instead of making it everyone’s problem please?
Why is it always absolutely anything other than regulating social media companies? We all KNOW that the corporate interests of social media directly conflicting with making discourse and content less toxic is the problem yet absolutely no one is proposing to fix it.
yeah if it gets bad here ill just stay offline and communicate via pigeon, ive had enough I dont think ill really give a damn about losing the convenience atp lol
> Lee says. “I think most people at most of these companies probably do want to protect kids.”
These are the kind of morons trying to pass age verification 🤦♂️.
Both Google & Apple provide parental controls around child app store accounts. You can opt to require approval. So…I call bullshit. I would recommend that everyone mention things like this when you contact your representatives in Congress.
And once there’s a data breach, scammers will have the birthdate and names of tens of millions of Americans.