It feels like we go through one of these „Security Disasters“ once every 5 years or so as old versions of Windows lose mainstream support. 🤷
OldSpaghetti-Factory on
Im still on windows 10 and will stay that way until I can take the time to install linux- by all ive read surprisingly easier sounding then id expect, im just lazy so I havent done it yet.
Stilgar314 on
Microsoft gave us a never ending parade of popups, notifications and right away ads for choosing Edge as default browser, install some AI crap or whatever random app/service some corpo committee had puked. The only sensible reaction is learning to ignore absolutely everything Windows ask us. They trained us so well in ignoring their messages that there’s a billion people that „just don’t see upgrading as worth the hassle, even when the option to do so is sitting right in front of them“
No-Associate-6068 on
I just got my windows 11 lincesed bro, on my HP Omen wtf…
Solerien on
If Windows 11 didn’t remove a bunch of features the Windows 10 had maybe switching wouldn’t be as bad. But they even removed the double stacked taskbar.
dasnoob on
This author is out of touch as hell. People are rejecting it because it is spyware and they don’t want their entire computer infested with AI slop.
AnalogAficionado on
They made this security disaster by shoving intrusive, manipulative crap down their users‘ throats. Maybe they should think about their users needs and wants instead of their ever-growing greed for a change.
TerranOPZ on
I upgraded my 12 year old laptop (that originally came with Win 7 Pro) to Windows 11 Pro. I had to do a lot of crazy things force an upgrade including using the MBR2GPT utility.
I also had to change the registry to get Bitlocker to work the way I wanted. Also, apparently, I can use Windows without logging into an account.
In short, I have a very hacked Windows setup. I can see why most people don’t want to spend time doing this.
vetwhocodess on
The only thing keeping me on windows 10 is Battlefield. If it ever becomes playable on steamOS I’m installing that. I’ve been using Linux and MacOS for work for years, so the switch will be a welcomed one
Expensive_Shallot_78 on
11 is as slow as Vista. Even when I disabled everything and use ShutUp 10++ it’s slow. We don’t even need to talk about the privacy disaster
Remarkable_Ninja_791 on
Cough cough ESU patcher cough cough cough
wiluG1 on
Windows 12 is needed now. It needs to paired down to allow our computers to load & be useful for core functions in mere seconds. Email & internet access. The rest should be added from a play list by users. Most computer users know what they want by now. Customer satisfaction was replaced by spying on & marketing to users a long time ago.
Ripped_Alleles on
Windows 11 is not a safe or secure O/S. They are storing and transmitting far too much invasive personal data, and there will be breaches both on Microsoft side of things and the average users.
You can’t even guarantee that your files and system are yours to use any more; there’s been several cases of people loosing access to their work and data because of Bitlocker & Windows account being mandatory.
And to top it off with the plan to add ‚Agentic Ai‘ to W11 that Microsoft themselves have admitted can be manipulated into installing malware and/or manipulating your system, things are only going to get worse.
Thankfully there is MacOS and more ideally, Linux as alternatives. I highly encourage anyone that cares at all about protecting their work, data, and just simple ownership of their system, to make the switch today.
Livid-Switch4040 on
Hello, Linux. I’ve heard a lot of good things, nice to finally get to know you.
wakennlake on
What a piece of crap article. It doesn’t say anything. No wonder people only read the title
Forsaken_Impact1904 on
Either they will fix Windows and remove the AI garbage or it will be Linux for all of my PCs soon.
I’m waiting until ESU on Windows 10 ends to make that call and I’m sure others are as well.
5aur1an on
„I said at the time that this was a mistake. The extended security updates (ESU) should have been limited to users with older PCs, others should have been mandated to upgrade.“
What an ass.
PrayForMojo_ on
My current computer is totally adequate and functioning well but apparently it’s not modern enough for Windows 11.
Do they really expect me to buy a new computer just to “upgrade” the OS? Fuck that.
Chezzymann on
I built my computer in 2018 with a 1st generation ryzen cpu, it’s only 7 years old and it works fine. But those 1st gen ryzen cpus arent compatible with windows 11. I dont want to have to spend extra money and swap out my cpu just to upgrade my hardware for windows 11.
kombiwombi on
Exfiltrating your personal information is also a security disaster.
ApexAftermath on
They can blow it out their ass. I’m not junking perfectly good machines that could easily run Windows 11 if not for the dumb requirements. And no I don’t want to do any of the methods to work around and install Windows 11 anyways. Either they drop the requirements and allow perfectly capable machines to upgrade or I’ll stick on Windows 10 until I literally cannot anymore due to some software I use ending the ability to work on Windows 10.
G1ngerBoy on
Get a computer that realky really REALLY wants to spy on everything I do while gradually running slower and slower and constantly getting new bugs because the devs are using at least 30% slop code
OR
Get a computer that doesn’t play as many games but has amazing battery life/extremely lower power usage, is compact, doesn’t require a login at start, doesn’t constantly try to get the user to buy the brands services and that apparently allows the use to turn off all LLMs with a single switch.
OR
Get a computer that is open-source and can play games and runs on hardware that option one says is to old to be usable.
Derelicticu on
I’d have to get a new computer because apparently Windows 11 won’t run on mine. I’m not getting a new computer just for more AI corporate ad-filled garbage.
namezam on
500M would rather landfill their machines than install Linux eh? Yikes
twilight-actual on
Good riddance.
Bob4Not on
Because of this, I daily drive Linux Mint now and also have a Windows 10 for music production.
If I ever went pro with Music production, for the first time in my life I’d get a Mac. I never thought I’d say that, but I never thought Microsoft would force AI agents into every part of Windows
arewenotmen1983 on
I’ve watched windows slowly take over its partition as each successive update eats more and more of the system resources.
Who has the money to buy a new computer every few years? Far better to choose a different operating system altogether.
the_nin_collector on
Honestly I just couldn’t be bothered enough to go into bios and set tmp.
That’s a you problem. Not a me problem.
It’s a work computer..so of work or.microsoft wants win 11 on it, they can fucking do it themselves.
Arch- on
I’ve never been happier since I switched to Mac, I only use windows for gaming, which I barely do nowadays. Not wasting my time on their shenanigans
Xixii on
My PC can’t run windows 11, so how can I install it? It’s insane to expect me to buy a new PC just for this, I have groceries to buy and rent to pay.
chipface on
Windows 11 is ok. But with them patching all the MS account workarounds and shoving AI down our throats, I’ve had enough. Once I can get all the shit I want working in Linux, I’m switching to Nobara as my daily driver. I have it in a dual boot and it’s pretty decent.
McSmiggins on
I think you’ll find they said „Not now“ rather than no because MS cannot seem to accept that I know what I want and removed „No“ from the options
BartleBossy on
I fucking hate microsoft.
AnEpicBowlOfRamen on
Because it’s BAD and it SUCKS!
Outragous_Extracts on
Maybe because it’s almost completely malware now. Your user data is sold to 3rd parties, the home button pulls up ads, it defaults to OneDrive saving at random, keeps shoving co-pilot down our throats, and has become a slow bloated mess.
North Korean Computers do less spying on their own citizens than this shit.
Aztech10 on
So far have switched 2/4 PCs to Bazzite. Not going back to shit shovel ware.
Derpykins666 on
It’s never been ‚easier‘ to upgrade to the next iteration of windows, yet I don’t want to, because that version has AI embedded in it. They’ve overreached extensively at this point. The greed has completely taken control and they’re trying to force their way in, anywhere they can.
It isn’t about what provides the best experience for the customer now. It’s how much can we prod the users to profit without any push back? Now they are seeing the pushback. They created their own problem. All Windows has to be is a customizable tool/interface so I can work, play or do whatever I want. That’s ALL it needs to be.
u0126 on
I have ran into multiple windows 11 bugs in the last two days and it’s not even my primary systems
I’m tired of this crap
ARandomWalkInSpace on
Windows 11 is a worse security disaster. This article is assuming newer software is better, usually a safe assumption, not so here.
bye-standard on
I only upgraded to windows 11 due to my new rig only being compatible with 11. However, I’m savvy enough to dig through the cesspool of “AI/Copilot” and bloated Microsoft BS to make it a machine that I want to use.
It only took me a few hours, some research, and some back-end file creation, but a mass majority of people won’t put forth the effort (and I don’t blame them).
Microsoft did it to themselves.
Saint--Jiub on
I’m still on Windows 10 since I was eligible for the extra year of security updates (also I haven’t heard of anybody being ineligible yet).
I’ll be making the switch to Linux shortly. I’ve used Ubuntu a ton in the past, but I haven’t decided on which distro I’ll land on this time.
Numerous-Process2981 on
I have no intention to switch until I’m absolutely forced to
snaggleboot on
Why would I want to be forced into making changes I don’t want? I don’t like the look or feel of windows 11. I hate their AI initiatives, I hate their hardware requirements for a fucking OS update, which is insane on its own. Microsoft had all my love and threw it away, just like hundreds of millions of computers because of this shit. What a waste. I’d rather figure out how to get my shit running on Linux than go to windows 11 at this point.
SillyMikey on
The problem with Microsoft is that they consistently rely on the fact that they are basically a monopoly when it comes to PC operating systems. They don’t feel like they need to make a real effort so they just do the bare minimum, release it all broken to the user base and then let them becomes their actual testers. You do that for long enough and people will eventually just not support you anymore.
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It feels like we go through one of these „Security Disasters“ once every 5 years or so as old versions of Windows lose mainstream support. 🤷
Im still on windows 10 and will stay that way until I can take the time to install linux- by all ive read surprisingly easier sounding then id expect, im just lazy so I havent done it yet.
Microsoft gave us a never ending parade of popups, notifications and right away ads for choosing Edge as default browser, install some AI crap or whatever random app/service some corpo committee had puked. The only sensible reaction is learning to ignore absolutely everything Windows ask us. They trained us so well in ignoring their messages that there’s a billion people that „just don’t see upgrading as worth the hassle, even when the option to do so is sitting right in front of them“
I just got my windows 11 lincesed bro, on my HP Omen wtf…
If Windows 11 didn’t remove a bunch of features the Windows 10 had maybe switching wouldn’t be as bad. But they even removed the double stacked taskbar.
This author is out of touch as hell. People are rejecting it because it is spyware and they don’t want their entire computer infested with AI slop.
They made this security disaster by shoving intrusive, manipulative crap down their users‘ throats. Maybe they should think about their users needs and wants instead of their ever-growing greed for a change.
I upgraded my 12 year old laptop (that originally came with Win 7 Pro) to Windows 11 Pro. I had to do a lot of crazy things force an upgrade including using the MBR2GPT utility.
I also had to change the registry to get Bitlocker to work the way I wanted. Also, apparently, I can use Windows without logging into an account.
In short, I have a very hacked Windows setup. I can see why most people don’t want to spend time doing this.
The only thing keeping me on windows 10 is Battlefield. If it ever becomes playable on steamOS I’m installing that. I’ve been using Linux and MacOS for work for years, so the switch will be a welcomed one
11 is as slow as Vista. Even when I disabled everything and use ShutUp 10++ it’s slow. We don’t even need to talk about the privacy disaster
Cough cough ESU patcher cough cough cough
Windows 12 is needed now. It needs to paired down to allow our computers to load & be useful for core functions in mere seconds. Email & internet access. The rest should be added from a play list by users. Most computer users know what they want by now. Customer satisfaction was replaced by spying on & marketing to users a long time ago.
Windows 11 is not a safe or secure O/S. They are storing and transmitting far too much invasive personal data, and there will be breaches both on Microsoft side of things and the average users.
You can’t even guarantee that your files and system are yours to use any more; there’s been several cases of people loosing access to their work and data because of Bitlocker & Windows account being mandatory.
And to top it off with the plan to add ‚Agentic Ai‘ to W11 that Microsoft themselves have admitted can be manipulated into installing malware and/or manipulating your system, things are only going to get worse.
Thankfully there is MacOS and more ideally, Linux as alternatives. I highly encourage anyone that cares at all about protecting their work, data, and just simple ownership of their system, to make the switch today.
Hello, Linux. I’ve heard a lot of good things, nice to finally get to know you.
What a piece of crap article. It doesn’t say anything. No wonder people only read the title
Either they will fix Windows and remove the AI garbage or it will be Linux for all of my PCs soon.
I’m waiting until ESU on Windows 10 ends to make that call and I’m sure others are as well.
„I said at the time that this was a mistake. The extended security updates (ESU) should have been limited to users with older PCs, others should have been mandated to upgrade.“
What an ass.
My current computer is totally adequate and functioning well but apparently it’s not modern enough for Windows 11.
Do they really expect me to buy a new computer just to “upgrade” the OS? Fuck that.
I built my computer in 2018 with a 1st generation ryzen cpu, it’s only 7 years old and it works fine. But those 1st gen ryzen cpus arent compatible with windows 11. I dont want to have to spend extra money and swap out my cpu just to upgrade my hardware for windows 11.
Exfiltrating your personal information is also a security disaster.
They can blow it out their ass. I’m not junking perfectly good machines that could easily run Windows 11 if not for the dumb requirements. And no I don’t want to do any of the methods to work around and install Windows 11 anyways. Either they drop the requirements and allow perfectly capable machines to upgrade or I’ll stick on Windows 10 until I literally cannot anymore due to some software I use ending the ability to work on Windows 10.
Get a computer that realky really REALLY wants to spy on everything I do while gradually running slower and slower and constantly getting new bugs because the devs are using at least 30% slop code
OR
Get a computer that doesn’t play as many games but has amazing battery life/extremely lower power usage, is compact, doesn’t require a login at start, doesn’t constantly try to get the user to buy the brands services and that apparently allows the use to turn off all LLMs with a single switch.
OR
Get a computer that is open-source and can play games and runs on hardware that option one says is to old to be usable.
I’d have to get a new computer because apparently Windows 11 won’t run on mine. I’m not getting a new computer just for more AI corporate ad-filled garbage.
500M would rather landfill their machines than install Linux eh? Yikes
Good riddance.
Because of this, I daily drive Linux Mint now and also have a Windows 10 for music production.
If I ever went pro with Music production, for the first time in my life I’d get a Mac. I never thought I’d say that, but I never thought Microsoft would force AI agents into every part of Windows
I’ve watched windows slowly take over its partition as each successive update eats more and more of the system resources.
Who has the money to buy a new computer every few years? Far better to choose a different operating system altogether.
Honestly I just couldn’t be bothered enough to go into bios and set tmp.
That’s a you problem. Not a me problem.
It’s a work computer..so of work or.microsoft wants win 11 on it, they can fucking do it themselves.
I’ve never been happier since I switched to Mac, I only use windows for gaming, which I barely do nowadays. Not wasting my time on their shenanigans
My PC can’t run windows 11, so how can I install it? It’s insane to expect me to buy a new PC just for this, I have groceries to buy and rent to pay.
Windows 11 is ok. But with them patching all the MS account workarounds and shoving AI down our throats, I’ve had enough. Once I can get all the shit I want working in Linux, I’m switching to Nobara as my daily driver. I have it in a dual boot and it’s pretty decent.
I think you’ll find they said „Not now“ rather than no because MS cannot seem to accept that I know what I want and removed „No“ from the options
I fucking hate microsoft.
Because it’s BAD and it SUCKS!
Maybe because it’s almost completely malware now. Your user data is sold to 3rd parties, the home button pulls up ads, it defaults to OneDrive saving at random, keeps shoving co-pilot down our throats, and has become a slow bloated mess.
North Korean Computers do less spying on their own citizens than this shit.
So far have switched 2/4 PCs to Bazzite. Not going back to shit shovel ware.
It’s never been ‚easier‘ to upgrade to the next iteration of windows, yet I don’t want to, because that version has AI embedded in it. They’ve overreached extensively at this point. The greed has completely taken control and they’re trying to force their way in, anywhere they can.
It isn’t about what provides the best experience for the customer now. It’s how much can we prod the users to profit without any push back? Now they are seeing the pushback. They created their own problem. All Windows has to be is a customizable tool/interface so I can work, play or do whatever I want. That’s ALL it needs to be.
I have ran into multiple windows 11 bugs in the last two days and it’s not even my primary systems
I’m tired of this crap
Windows 11 is a worse security disaster. This article is assuming newer software is better, usually a safe assumption, not so here.
I only upgraded to windows 11 due to my new rig only being compatible with 11. However, I’m savvy enough to dig through the cesspool of “AI/Copilot” and bloated Microsoft BS to make it a machine that I want to use.
It only took me a few hours, some research, and some back-end file creation, but a mass majority of people won’t put forth the effort (and I don’t blame them).
Microsoft did it to themselves.
I’m still on Windows 10 since I was eligible for the extra year of security updates (also I haven’t heard of anybody being ineligible yet).
I’ll be making the switch to Linux shortly. I’ve used Ubuntu a ton in the past, but I haven’t decided on which distro I’ll land on this time.
I have no intention to switch until I’m absolutely forced to
Why would I want to be forced into making changes I don’t want? I don’t like the look or feel of windows 11. I hate their AI initiatives, I hate their hardware requirements for a fucking OS update, which is insane on its own. Microsoft had all my love and threw it away, just like hundreds of millions of computers because of this shit. What a waste. I’d rather figure out how to get my shit running on Linux than go to windows 11 at this point.
The problem with Microsoft is that they consistently rely on the fact that they are basically a monopoly when it comes to PC operating systems. They don’t feel like they need to make a real effort so they just do the bare minimum, release it all broken to the user base and then let them becomes their actual testers. You do that for long enough and people will eventually just not support you anymore.