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    1. Deer_Investigator881 on

      Its not dangerous until the Government or a company with heavy government ties does it

    2. Stannis_Loyalist on

      It is only natural when China’s are cheaper and as efficient compared to America. It is also open-source and open-weight. Which is probably the main reason why so many start-up will use Chinese LLM. To save cost.

      Blame OpenAI and Anthropic on this one.

    3. There are a ton of CCPisms built into models like DeepSeek and Qwen. Like try asking it about Tianenmen Square. It gets really squirrelly about it. Azure has a deprogrammed version on their Foundry.

    4. And those Chinese AI are trained on stolen America data (much like American AI).

      It’s clockwork.

    5. farticustheelder on

      This was obvious as soon as DeepSeek was released as open source software. The point was reinforced when some senator(s) started talking about million dollar fines and jail sentences for people downloading and using the software.

      This bit from the article is misleading, „Investors have staked tens of billions on OpenAI and Anthropic,…“ according to google’s search AI cumulativel US AI investments are about $750 BILLION in 2025. I expect it to clear the TRILLION dollar mark in 2026 unless the bubble bursts before then.

      I think for a New Year’s resolution I’ll download DeepSeek, learn how to use it. Then get it to write me a browser that automatically strips out all ads* while misleading the sites into thinking the ads are showing up fine. Sell it via $10/year subscription with constant updates.

      This low level stuff is within current AI’s competence (I think) but replacing real jobs? That’s not likely since even call centers can’t make it work.

      The AI bubble is about to burst and it looks likely to take the humanoid robot craze with it.

      As always, interesting times.

      *unwanted ads only. Every Thursday I look at the flyers for local supermarkets, a AI agent that knows what I buy and where I shop could filter out the stuff I’m not interested in. I’m not interested in furniture ads until I decide to replace a couch or other piece, an agent that follows the sales calendar can look out for good deals for me.

    6. random_agency on

      Basically free is the best way to get a captured audience.

      US AI stakeholders are going to learn how intense China domestic competition is for businesses in China.

      Usually the US rarely seen intense business competition like this. Where if you’re unable to come with the next innovation (N+1) you die.

    7. Icy-Stock-5838 on

      That’s bad with sending all the I.P. into China..

      It’s a repeat of sending the industrial base to China..

    8. No_Mercy_4_Potatoes on

      Wish OpenAI was a public company. Would love to short the shit out of that hot piece of garbage.

    9. engineered_academic on

      This is a true national security supply chain threat. OpenAI was supposed to fill this role until the stakeholders realized they were sitting on a goldmine.

    10. ImprovementMain7109 on

      This is what happens when you combine „AI is strategic like nukes“ rhetoric with no real open, cheap domestic alternatives: people quietly route traffic to whoever ships usable models at low cost. Long term it’s like outsourcing your energy grid, except this time it’s your data and tooling dependency. If the US/EU actually care about this, the response isn’t hand‑wringing about China, it’s funding competitive open models and infra so the default cheap option isn’t “hope foreign law treats your users kindly.”

    11. Even without massive subsidies, Chinese AI is still cheaper due to cheaper electricity and infrastructure costs. I think it makes sense for China to subsidize their AI industry like how they subsidized solar. Eventually the economics will make it sensible to only use Chinese AI software.

    12. TarantinosFavWord on

      I thought we were all about free market? The better cheaper product would win and encourage companies to produce better cheaper products to compete? No? That’s why we have $70,000 shitmobiles clogging our roadways and trapping people in 7 year auto loans? Funny how that works.

    13. NoMikeyThatsNotRight on

      To be fair the Chinese models are completely FOSS. Anybody with a good enough computer can just download the weights and run one. It’s literally free.

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