In 2000BCE, speakers of proto-Hellenic are already present in modern Greece, roughly in the blue area, but they wouldn’t have been divided into the tribes listed here.
Were the non-Greeks already Indo-European or were the Greeks the first Indo-Europeans in Greece? Were the others offshoots of the Minoans or were they their own things?
TheGodfather742 on
Greek as in the tribe. Most of these tribes here are in fact part of what later becomes Hellenic identity.
No-Music-1994 on
This mixes tribes over a span of over 1000 years plus some that never existed. Looks like someone stole this pic and repurposed it for the worst.
Spaser on
Is ‘Cretans’ the same as the Minoan civ? I thought they were pretty established at this time.
vforvouf on
Some people here clearly know history only from movies and comics, and haven’t read even a single page from an actual history book.
Whentheangelsings on
The Dorian invasion has never been proven
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No way this is accurate
In 2000BCE, speakers of proto-Hellenic are already present in modern Greece, roughly in the blue area, but they wouldn’t have been divided into the tribes listed here.
The blues invaded the browns
Wdym greeks invaded it I’m so confused
Do not just post other people’s maps. I made this map back in 2022, I simply decided to only [post the Greek version](https://www.reddit.com/r/greece/comments/w5hveq/χάρτης_της_ελλάδας_το_2000_πχ/) in r/greece, and only recently shared the English version in r/IndoEuropean. I mean, you could have at least asked, or credited the map-maker, being myself. And [I did say](https://www.reddit.com/r/IndoEuropean/comments/1oo746m/comment/nn201tf/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) that this was an old map, and how if I were to redo it today, I would have made it very differently, as my opinions have changed in the last 3 years on various aspects of Pre-Greek and Proto-Greek topics.
Were the non-Greeks already Indo-European or were the Greeks the first Indo-Europeans in Greece? Were the others offshoots of the Minoans or were they their own things?
Greek as in the tribe. Most of these tribes here are in fact part of what later becomes Hellenic identity.
This mixes tribes over a span of over 1000 years plus some that never existed. Looks like someone stole this pic and repurposed it for the worst.
Is ‘Cretans’ the same as the Minoan civ? I thought they were pretty established at this time.
Some people here clearly know history only from movies and comics, and haven’t read even a single page from an actual history book.
The Dorian invasion has never been proven