One of my favorite historical fiction works ponders this. „Agent of Byzantium.“ What if instead of founding Islam, Mohammed became a Christian monk and Saint?
Darth_Annoying on
Wasn’t Buddhism the primary religion of central asia ans Afghanistan before it was converted to Islam? Why’d they go Tengiist?
a_rabid_anti_dentite on
Why is Islam in quotation marks?
RedHeadedSicilian52 on
Hey, I remember when this was initially posted to r/imaginarymaps!
As a straightforward attempt at alternate history, this fails because it posits that, aside from the lack of Islam, world history plays out seemingly almost exactly the same as it did in our world. For instance, Protestantism arising and coming to dominate the exact same areas that it did in our timeline… despite the fact that Martin Luther was born about a millennium after the Prophet Muhammad. It’d be like writing a scenario where Napoleon wins at Waterloo… and Hitler is still somehow born and seizes power in Germany.
reddit_tothe_rescue on
Why is Islam in quotes?
nochinzilch on
Why is Islam in scare quotes?
HaifaJenner123 on
Egypt would have a sizable Greek orthodox and Armenian population not just Coptic
AzaleaCoda on
World fucking peace
Cultural-Diet6933 on
The world would have been a much better place.
Dear-Relationship666 on
I’d be living in the middle east
WillLife on
Christianity would probably have spread to Arabia.
swamppuppy7043 on
The world would be a better place
Repulsive_Barnacle92 on
where’s judaism?
Baba1020 on
What if Christianity never existed ? Europe would be mostly Pagan
islander_guy on
Bold of you to assume Christian monks would not have taken over instead.
Aaron696 on
This assumes everything in the Middle East would be frozen in time. Arab polytheists and tengrists would probably become Christian or Zoroastrian.
LandonHill8836 on
Zoroastrisme, in a world where Christianity is absolute would have synchronized with Christianity, incorporating it into their own church
Also, if mongols still happened, they would bring back Christianity too
KidneystoneDoula on
Arabia was full of heterodox Christians, Jews and Sabeans before Islam.
whverman on
No Jews either?
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What religion is most similar to Zoroastrianism?
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Really bad map:
– Arabia per Pre-Islamic Arabia experts such as Ahmad al-Jallad at the forefront of research cite polytheist inscriptions disappearing centuries before Islam, and replaced by Christian and to a lesser extent Jewish inscriptions. So likely Arabia in this map if we take from the late antiquity Arabia right before Islam would be a mixture between Christianity and Judaism.
– Armenian Apostolic would extend more into eastern Anatolia, as during Pre-Islamic and pre-modern Turkey times they constituted a majority or plurality in many regions of Eastern Anatolia
– Ethiopian Orthodox were under the Coptic Church until the modern times, though their traditions were distinct
– Berber religions likely in the future would’ve been replaced entirely by some form of Christianity or Judaism
– Tengriism was already losing traction in Central Asia and the Steppe to Nestorianism, Manichaeism, Islam and Buddhism thus in this timeline they likely wouldve been a mixture of Syriacs, Manichaeans and Buddhists on the map. Perhaps with nuggets of local paganism in the Hindu Kush
Kat_Konstanze on
Outjerked yet again
4KT76 on
*incoming islamophobic comments*
tlatelolca on
so the crusades never happened or?
Potato_Octopi on
I feel like Orthodox would be a lot stronger and Protestantism less likely.
Krendall2006 on
Why no Israel/Judea?
Hellfiger on
Save Europe
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The world would be a better place.
samoan_ninja on
God would not allow the world to exist without the final messenger.
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That would have been amazing.
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world would be a better place
would we still have suicide bombings?
One of my favorite historical fiction works ponders this. „Agent of Byzantium.“ What if instead of founding Islam, Mohammed became a Christian monk and Saint?
Wasn’t Buddhism the primary religion of central asia ans Afghanistan before it was converted to Islam? Why’d they go Tengiist?
Why is Islam in quotation marks?
Hey, I remember when this was initially posted to r/imaginarymaps!
As a straightforward attempt at alternate history, this fails because it posits that, aside from the lack of Islam, world history plays out seemingly almost exactly the same as it did in our world. For instance, Protestantism arising and coming to dominate the exact same areas that it did in our timeline… despite the fact that Martin Luther was born about a millennium after the Prophet Muhammad. It’d be like writing a scenario where Napoleon wins at Waterloo… and Hitler is still somehow born and seizes power in Germany.
Why is Islam in quotes?
Why is Islam in scare quotes?
Egypt would have a sizable Greek orthodox and Armenian population not just Coptic
World fucking peace
The world would have been a much better place.
I’d be living in the middle east
Christianity would probably have spread to Arabia.
The world would be a better place
where’s judaism?
What if Christianity never existed ? Europe would be mostly Pagan
Bold of you to assume Christian monks would not have taken over instead.
This assumes everything in the Middle East would be frozen in time. Arab polytheists and tengrists would probably become Christian or Zoroastrian.
Zoroastrisme, in a world where Christianity is absolute would have synchronized with Christianity, incorporating it into their own church
Also, if mongols still happened, they would bring back Christianity too
Arabia was full of heterodox Christians, Jews and Sabeans before Islam.
No Jews either?
What religion is most similar to Zoroastrianism?
Really bad map:
– Arabia per Pre-Islamic Arabia experts such as Ahmad al-Jallad at the forefront of research cite polytheist inscriptions disappearing centuries before Islam, and replaced by Christian and to a lesser extent Jewish inscriptions. So likely Arabia in this map if we take from the late antiquity Arabia right before Islam would be a mixture between Christianity and Judaism.
– Armenian Apostolic would extend more into eastern Anatolia, as during Pre-Islamic and pre-modern Turkey times they constituted a majority or plurality in many regions of Eastern Anatolia
– Ethiopian Orthodox were under the Coptic Church until the modern times, though their traditions were distinct
– Berber religions likely in the future would’ve been replaced entirely by some form of Christianity or Judaism
– Tengriism was already losing traction in Central Asia and the Steppe to Nestorianism, Manichaeism, Islam and Buddhism thus in this timeline they likely wouldve been a mixture of Syriacs, Manichaeans and Buddhists on the map. Perhaps with nuggets of local paganism in the Hindu Kush
Outjerked yet again
*incoming islamophobic comments*
so the crusades never happened or?
I feel like Orthodox would be a lot stronger and Protestantism less likely.
Why no Israel/Judea?
Save Europe
The world would be a better place.
God would not allow the world to exist without the final messenger.
That would have been amazing.