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    1. The Liberals have been relying on the “Anything But Conservative“ vote for a decade. I wonder how far to the right Carney can take the party before a significant number of those ABC voters can’t stomach it anymore.

    2. TheWaySheHoes on

      >There have been internal concerns that Guilbeault, who served as the environment minister in the last Liberal government, could resign over this.

      I see this as only good news. Guilbeault is an inflexible crank and the someone you just really don’t need in a cabinet that has a massive “build everything now” mandate.

      Anyways, plus ca change… there was grumbling when TMX got approved too but most of those seats were safe and today the NDP is half in the grave.

      The LPC has a clear runway.

    3. I’m not confident the pipeline will be completed. I think the US is going to invade Venezuela and install a puppet that will allow massive corporate investment in their ‚extra-heavy oil deposits‘. As dirty as they are, they are the largest remaining oil deposits on earth. I bet the oil and mineral companies will have all kinds of extra incentives to ‚drill baby drill‘ from the newly ‚elected‘ government.

      I think they’ll have a boom larger than all the booms Alberta ever got combined. That product is ugly but it covers such a large area that many new operations can be created. I think they’ll need to export their ‚extra-heavy oil deposits‘ to existing refineries while they build more to handle the increased production. I bet their product can reach the US Gulf coast refineries cheaper than the Alberta product regardless of how many pipelines we buy.

    4. King-in-Council on

      *Tactical climate realism* – OK how do we build a resilent new world through diesel and steel (cause that’s the only way to do it at scale) that actual gets us off our hope and prayer trajectory? This is civilizational heavy industry and massive changes to the foundation of capitalism. All of this magic? All of this the working classes living better lives then Kings 150 years ago: carbon. Captialism isn’t special it’s just an energy system. It’s why they’re breaking down at the same time and people are saying: do we live under techno feudalism now? 

      It’s all just messaging at this point, and how many people really want to stare into the abyss. There’s a reason why Mark Carney said his faith propelled him into action. I like to think he sees the enormity of the challenge and stakes. And most of the challenge is raw *tactics.* Ok we got the strategy (Paris 2015) but how do we actually get there without a world war over endgame resources? Without positive feed back loops from Energy Returned on Energy Invested growing this really is a zero sum world. 

      The premium for *stability* is rapidly shooting up. That’s the first sign people are actually living in the real world for a change. What ended slavery as a human institution? Coal, oil & steam. Let’s get real fucking serious guys. 2050, 2075, 2100. These are the dates that matter not Q1, Q2, Q3.

      I myself have moved from an idealist to a raw tactician. I’m sure more then anything the PCO – the raw strategy – is pushing this pipeline forward. How else do you avoid fiscal crisis? Everyone is playing toy soldiers on climate; delusional hypocrites. You gotta *actually build* a whole new economic-energy system with the old before you turn off the old. 

    5. If the likes of Stephen Gillibeault crosses the floor to the Greens or NDP (or who knows the bloc just the for shits and giggle) it would set up the grounds for a very interesting realignment of political coalitons in the country.

    6. RicoLoveless on

      Those in cabinet and caucus are free to leave then before the next election if they feel that strongly about it.

      I’m sure they would totally hate it if they got re-elected on the back of other MP’s in their party actually putting in work.

    7. I don’t know how to feel about this push for a new pipeline.

      On the one hand, O&G is critical to the economic health of the nation. On the other hand, it won’t be forever, and with wars dying down around the world (and the US looking at Venezuela), oil will become cheaper, and Canadian oilsands crude is not competitive on a price-per-barrel with oil from OPEC countries.

      On the other hand, Canada’s O&G is arguably the „cleanest“ in the world when you wholistically consider labour rights, citizen rights, environmental policy, etc. The ultimate question is whether or not the market will have enough buyers wanting the „cleanest“ oil over the cheapest.

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