„Wir müssen nachhaltiges Pendeln zur einfachsten Option machen“: Bedenken, dass das Pendeln mit dem Bus um 19 Prozent zurückgeht
https://www.businessgreen.com/news/4522208/sustainable-commuting-easiest-option-concerns-commuting-bus-falls-19-cent
Von lobas
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Make buses less awful and more people will use them
I stopped taking busses because they’re not reliable and they are not worth the tickets prices, honestly, but like there must be an equation where you keep ticket prices low and service consistent that you get enough customers to break even or sth. I honestly don’t understand how bus business works, and it’s not an ideal world.
Maybe also now that you can order everything at home online may also mean people don’t take busses. Idk.
I really really like public transportation.
I take bike tbh, but it bus tickets were cheaper, I’d take busses more often
In East Sussex, bus times are not synchronized with trains. Too many buses wandering around endless estates, no quick options to support commuters. There is a need for a limited number of peak time express type buses linking major towns.
I’m hardly surprised, with some exceptions e.g. London, you’d have to be insane to actively want to commute by bus for any reason other than cost saving. My old commute was a 9 minute drive but a 50 minute bus journey every 30 minutes that just didn’t quite work with when I left so in reality it was a 20 minute wait + 50 minutes… That’s even if it turned up, which was hardly that abnormal.
Anyone has ever had to rely on buses in Inverness?
You’d think they would run absolutely stellar in a relatively small town like Inverness.
But no.
They are beyond shite. Beyond unreliable.
Need to get to the airport? Absolutely do not rely on buses, take a taxi. Trust me, you’d rather pay 25 quid than be late for a flight because the bus wouldn’t give a flying fuck to run its scheduled route let alone be on time.
My local buses have had their schedules cut and routes extended so a 10 minute car journey takes 40+ minutes by bus.
One bus used to run until 11:30pm and it now stops at 6:30pm. It also used to run 7 days a week and now it doesn’t run on Sunday at all.
Instead of having lots of buses doing small loops through select estates they’ve merged them all together so now you have one bus covering everything which is why it takes so long.
Make the service better or significantly cheaper if it’s gonna be crap, can’t believe it would cost me nearly £6 to get to town when it would be a ~10 minute drive without traffic.
Plus since I started driving I no longer get harassed by strangers, for many women a car is not just more convenient but it’s that reassurance and safety. I have so many stories from my public transport days of being followed, touched, harassed, frightened, intimidated and just generally felt uncomfortable. Plus I know whose arses have been on my car seats, the people I drove about are clean so I don’t have to be concerned about that.
Cheaper, faster, more convenient.
All public transport has to be atleast 1 of those 3 things to entice commuters. Ideally 2.
In a lot of places, it’s neither provided you can afford the upfront cost of a used car.
Could this also be related to the availability of electric bikes?
Purely anecdotal but I feel like I see many more bikes these days.
“Just move to the Netherlands, bro! Simples!😎” – noted YouTuber and urbanist refugee
Where i live it has become stupidly expensive to go by bus. My sons 30 day pass for a single route to work is now £115, up from £75 last year. I use a Honda PCX125 scooter, pay about the same as my son does but for an entire month all in and travel about five times the distance, have no delays and can go where i want, when i want. Public transport needs to be cheaper, demand is falling because it is too expensive.
To get to work tomorrow by bus for 8am, I’d have to leave my house at 21:00 tonight take 3 & half hours worth of busses ……
Unless you live somewhere with exceptional bus services they generally aren’t reliable for commuting.
And even in those places you still get off days. (not to mention generally night services and sundays are appalling in this country.)
If I want to travel to the city (7 miles away) that’s nearly 2 hours.
If I am lucky and travelling at peak times there are 2 buses an hour.
Going to the nearest town on a Sunday? There is one bus every two hours
To take me and my two kids about 3 miles into town it costs £10, it’s cheaper to get an uber genuinely.
A few years ago, In the space of six months the bus commute to work went from acceptable to downright atrocious. I’m not sure exactly what happened to cause it but busses were constantly late by half an hour or more or just straight up cancelled. I was frequently late for work (thankfully my employers were cool about it) and consistently late home by an hour or more.
It got so bad I bought an e-bike and clocked up over 75 miles a week on it cycling to and from work. Hardly ideal but so much better than the bus commute.
Because bus companies are terrible. I used to get the very first bus in the morning to work – arrived outside my house at 0605. In theory. In practice, despite being the first bus of the whole day and there being very little traffic at that time, it was often late. And in the evenings it was late or cancelled.
The last time I took the bus home, this completely drugged out guy forced his way in the back door, and proceeded to sit down on the floor next to the doors and smoke. Bus driver had to get out of her cab and go yell at him. I didn’t see how it ended, I decided to get off before it got worse and walk the rest of the way.
I’ve seen fist fights, threats to kill and rape, all kinds of abuse hurled at drivers. Then there’s the people who listen to music or talk on the phone at top volume, the people who drop trash and food waste all over the place. Taking the bus is horrible.
I like catching the bus, but if you include waiting time and walking to the bus stop, then it is often faster to walk to work. If you factor in a £3 ticket each way then walking is a no brainer.
Not just commuting. Here in Leeds the last couple of buses of the night are extremely unreliable and often don’t turn up. And they also raised the cost of a group day ticket for 5 people from 6.75 on the weekend to £11, so when I go into town then extra faff of waiting for a bus that might turn up isn’t worth it compared to an Uber
Who would have thought increasing the Fare cap from £2 to £3 would discourage Bus use. You could see this coming a mile off
Or we could just scrap buses altogether and half the roads they’re dedicated lanes take up in city centers thus allowing the vast majority of people in cars to travel faster with less congestion.
Don’t have a car? Get one or an uber/taxi.
Maybe if the rest of the country got subsidised public transport–like London!
Good public transport system isn’t one that everyone without other options choose, but one that those with options choose.
Currently bus services are so disjointed, and erratic you can’t rely on it to get you from A to B with any sort of reliability, speed or a good amount of walking.
Trains are so ludicrously expensive yet poor in service, and anywhere outside of london or major metropolitan hubs the trains are just awful and years out of date.
The infrastructure that public transport runs on is also awfully outdated and needs updating and maintaining, for example why is so much of nottingham and Birmingham rail not electrified? Why are there so few bus lanes?
All this forces those with cars to maintain a vehicle that only transports one person at a time, and raining unused for almost the entire day, and those without to use overpriced taxis or the exploitative service of Uber.
It starts with the one thing that so much of the UK is afraid of, investing into UK, and to make the apparent nightmare worse, investing in the north.
I live in the north under stagecoach and first so the buses are already dogshit
Pre covid my route would get 3 an hour and was fantastic then covid hit and we went to one an hour, till now where we’ve got a 20 – 40 ish schedule every hour and for the £3 single yeah it’s a rip off
I know some people who only get a bus once every 2 hours which shouldn’t be classed as a service
yeah Thatcher happened and the eighties spurred on the atomisation of individuals‘ lives and the markets and manufacturing and advertising industries convinced people that they all needed their own in order to exist and now that has partly become true.
The bus stops right outside my front door and takes me to within 5 mins of my work. So why don’t i use it? It never turns up even though they get paid to run it, the drivers are mostly assholes with authority fetishes or couldn’t care if the bus was on fire who pull away at the worst moment, the seats are small and stink, takes 45 mins to do a few miles, costs way too much and even passes are rip offs, they are never on time when the odd bus does run (i’m talking several in a row not arriving). And i have to argue with drivers over whether my folding bike is allowed in their bus even though its posted all over their website i can.
So what do i do instead? Travel a few miles by bike then catch a train. Costs me less than half the bus fare on the train, i can break my journey and they treat you like adults on the train. I will rather walk in the rain than catch a bus these days.
Lack of invest & lack of alternatives, so few cities in the UK have trams compared cities ion the continent.
It got to point for me that fucking cycling was genuinely better then getting the bus.