CEO von Epic: „RAM-Preiserhöhungen werden ein echtes Problem sein“ – wie OpenAI et al. Die RAM-Preise steigen und gefährden die Erschwinglichkeit von allem, von der Xbox bis hin zu Fernsehern und Laptops

    https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/epic-games-ceo-ram-price-increases-will-be-a-real-problem-for-high-end-gaming

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    1. Crafty_Aspect8122 on

      How long will it take for manufacturing to catch up with AI and gaming demand?

    2. BroForceOne on

      I feel like this is a large reason Steam couldn’t announce price on their new PC. They may have produced stock with already purchased memory but almost certainly not enough stock to announce a price they can stick to.

      It will be especially interesting to find out how long until the big 3 consoles burn through their stocks to need to do another price increase.

    3. Datacenters are using up drinking water and overloading power grids, Sam Altman has fucked over every technology company not named OpenAI for years to come, the coming tech crash is going to drag down economies worldwide… AI is going to be the downfall of civilization after all, just in a manner no sci-fi writer anticipated.

    4. ThePlasticSturgeons on

      Already seeing it big time. I was looking at the prices of the kit I built 6 months ago, and the price of the RAM alone is now > 1/3 the price of the entire system.

    5. OriolesMets on

      Let’s see, AI is:

      Fucking up the job market

      Raising prices on everything

      Invading all of our software

      But hey, now your favorite apps have useless AI chat features that you’ll disable!

    6. Pitiful-Doubt4838 on

      I thought this was about RAM pickups and was very confused.

      But watch it happen to cars anyways.

    7. I also blame all the AI hype friends who think using AI is cool. F..K them!

    8. Guys I don’t think we need 500 different AI companies all with their own massive data centers

    9. engorgedburrata on

      so if there is going to be a demand on RAM, what stocks should I buy?

    10. Good, I hope this decimates the market and the AI crash happens sooner than later.

    11. I got 2 x16 Crucial pro 32gb Ram sticks for about $50 earlier in the year. Now amazons got options for $225-$300.

    12. Just wait until we have energy conservation hours because our shitty, outdated grid can’t handle us and AI using it at the same time.

    13. I think they’re just trying to move units for Black Friday, since it really doesn’t exist anymore

    14. Time to remove products that contain memory from the inflation calculations too

    15. Theyre building data centers across half of the U.S. Each data center has billions of dollars behind it. Many countries the world over are doing the same thing. It’ll be a couple years before everything levels out. 

    16. Can we use this as a suggestion that maybe we shouldnt make everything smart, its fucking dumb if i cant buy a tv because ai fucks up ram.

    17. polloyumyum on

      I hope this AI bubble bursts in a huge way. Keeping integrating it into the medical industry and all the useful stuff, but it’d be great if this everyday AI use bullshit just disappeared.

    18. ultimatelyco on

      If China catches up on manufacturing high end technology, will affordability return? Low stock, overpriced tech and scalpers has gone on way too long. It sometimes feels like covid never stopped.

    19. Well, with wages having remained stagnant compared to the cost-of-living for so long and inflation, and corporations laying off everyone left and right in order to maximize profits then who’s going to afford these things even if RAM prices weren’t going to increase?

    20. And given how Unreal Engine is used and tailored by Epic (productivity and shiny graphics first and foremost, doing things „right“ last), I press X for doubt that they won’t exacerbate this problem.

      Why I’m saying this is that Epic’s own Fortnite has been having performance issue symptoms from the Unreal Engine 5 upgrade, which have been getting very, ***very*** slowly patched out throughout season updates. For example asynchronous shader compilation in DirectX 12 mode finally being a thing since the Star Wars season, 5.5 years after the introduction of DirectX 12 mode in Fortnite. Shader compilation stuttering has always been a thing there, but became much worse since Epic switched to Unreal Engine 5 for Fortnite, on top of higher RAM usage.

      So if Epic’s own flagship game and engine isn’t the best role model, it would be great if Tim Sweeney will let positive actions speak more than words. Of course this is quite a lengthy comment from me for such a short Tweet for him, but knowing some of these details can make one view his words in a different context. Such as the detail that he responded to a screenshot Tweet of a 64 GB RAM kit. It kinda conveys a subtle sentiment as if games may break the 32 GB RAM mark in the next years, assuming that games with objectively underwhelming performance (e.g. Borderlands 4) set new negative bars for „high end gaming.“

    21. evidently_primate on

      destroying the planet for ai goonfuel would be a fitting end to the species

    22. NaturalSelecty on

      It’s time to regulate AI to the extreme. We only need a few companies utilizing it. It’s clearly a massive drain on resources and a great deal of the public doesn’t want it pre-installed in their consumer products outside of something like a phone assistant.

    23. Ringittydongdingding on

      Umm.. bullshit?

      Just another ploy by rich assholes to overcharge the rest of us by making excuses about a cause that has absolutely nothing to do with the price hike.

    24. At least high end GPUs have a limited user base.

      RAM and storage is in literally everything , it’s basically an additional tariff added to electronics.

    25. Thoraxekicksazz on

      TVs should not need ram or have a operating system. It just needs to be a displays with audio.

    26. Substantial-Flow9244 on

      Our world is coming to a fork, one where we accept corporate overlords hoarding computer technology so they can enslave us with subscription cloud services, or one where open source becomes so strong that everyone is able to power what they would use the cloud for, with their own basic home lab server.

      One will be cheaper too.

    27. What sucks is how China is using it for better hospitals, better bureaucracy etc while we use it for meaningless capital based brain rot

    28. grammar_fozzie on

      The convention center in my city is being transformed into a data center. This data center is going to get priority access to unlimited electricity at about 1/4 of the price that the citizens of my metro area pay. There are no plans to make up for the electricity delta loss. We already have regular power outages due to demand – especially in summer. The local news brought this concern to the state utility commission and their answer was that we can expect more frequent and longer outages once the data center is online and that we (residents) need to plan for interruptions and use battery backups and solar and generators to remain powered.

      Fuck AI. I hope the ecoterrorists are at the ready to make sure the data centers have a bad time.

    29. action_turtle on

      Taking things people want away to make AI that none but c-suit wants. Great

    30. AI continuing to be the massive weights tied to societies legs that NOBODY FUCKING ASKED FOR OR WANTS.

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