Veteranen früherer Ölpipeline-Kämpfe geloben, alle neuen Vorschläge an der Nordküste von British Columbia abzulehnen

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/vancouver/article/veterans-of-previous-oil-pipeline-fight-vow-to-oppose-any-new-proposals-on-bcs-north-coast/

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    1. Numerous-Bike-4951 on

      If people think the north coast consists of soft handed, flower wearing, tree hugging hippies they are severely mistaken.

      The line is dead, Carney is exposing it at its bare and taking a hit to do so .

      He might lose some left , but the 50% will be exposed to the realities. The right, who cares they will flip to the next excuse and they are unattainable to Carney anyways.

    2. King-in-Council on

      „Tactical Carbon Pulse Realism“ The more I think about this. And I have been thinking about it a lot. This is *inevitable.* The 2nd pipeline. It’s to strategic. It’s to existential for the Crown & Canada.

      They’re handling the messaging and the big picture really badly. We absolutely should be focused on: 
      – mining the entire Athabasca deposit (cheaper then SAGD and can be broadly decarbonized) 
      – starting at the north and working down towards Fort Mac
      – expanding Wood Buffalo NP as you go through reclarmation and plant scrapping until it’s at the edge of Fort Mac 

      That’s how a serious, long term thinking civilization would do it. Petro Canada 2.0 – „Carbon Canada“ – as the prime driver handing contracts out to private sector. *Do it Norway style.* Stewardship and strategy is the state. Deliverables as the strategy instricts is private sector. Civic capitalism like we use to do once upon a time. 

      The oil will be burned. We are not responsible for exported carbon under the Treaty. We can do it better then anyone. We are the most stable, long term supplier into the end of the carbon pulse. Stop letting all the returns go to Capital! 

      I really don’t like the pipeline to the coast, but the more you study the deeper layers. The more it becomes to strategic not to do it. But we shouldn’t let the private sector do it.

      TLDR: there is *trillions* in upside in being the stable & secure carbon provider for a world that needs to build a whole new post carbon industrial society in 30-60 years. We need the thermodynamic realities of hydrocarbons to do it. We need to stop dicking around with hopeing the market will provide order out of chaos running an 2-3 year ROI profit focused operating system. This is *civilizational*. Growing Canada to 100 M people doesn’t work as our growth model. This is how you turn Canada into a citadel state (*ironically as the last place where the wild things are*) in a century defined by *entropy.*

      Edit: and BC doesn’t have the moral high ground they think they do until they actually stop felling old growth. *No one needs old growth.*

      Good faith attempt to follow sub rules. 

    3. TheWaySheHoes on

      As is tradition and we all expect nothing less.

      So long as the government doesn’t botch consultation again, it somewhat doesn’t matter if the project is opposed and litigated against. Sadly, that is utterly priced in and inevitable, no matter what. There is literally *nothing* the federal, Alberta, or BC government could ever possibly do to stop that.

      I wish it wasn’t that way, but its that way.

      It makes it incredibly expensive and uncertain to do business in Canada, and essentially forces our governments to underwrite major projects, which is embarrassing af, but better than them not getting built at all.

      [BC supports a new pipeline by a 22 point margin.](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/majority-of-canadians-including-b-c-residents-support-albertas-pipeline-push-poll-finds-9.6934295) Canada by a 33 point margin. There literally isn’t a single province more opposed than in favour, even Quebec.

      Cue the theatrics, drama, and acrimony, but screw it. If that’s the price of things getting built in modern Canada, so be it. The juice is worth the squeeze.

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