History teaches us that you cannot appease war mongering dictators…
tysk-one on
LOL, of course. After years of flip-flopping with ever failing to make it obvious, they made it really obvious.
The Epstein files can be cleared all they want…Russia still has the original files.
CaterpillarMotor1242 on
Ukraine needs to tell the US get bent
omfgeometry on
The USA fuckin stinks
Cynical_Classicist on
Remember when the press was heiling on Trump on the grounds that he’d stand up to Putin? Yeh… that was a lie. Boris Johnson saying this probably should have let us know.
OneNormalBloke on
‚Peace Plan‘ drafted by Kremlin, promoted by Witless and the orange megalomaniac – what could possibly go wrong?
Select-Cash-4906 on
I mean the fact people are deluded to think Trump was nothing more then a Pro Russian stooge at worst or a moron at best who would back Russia is akin to when in Munich 1938, when Chamberlain said Hitler was reasonable
No autocrat is ever reasonable they will always want more and more. If this deal happens, Russia will
Attack Nato and it will be The Baltic next
Europe better stand up now or Russia will carve us up
vossmanspal on
Well, he will need somewhere to live once the US returns to some kind of normality in the future, hope it’s not a high rise apartment though.
sorenpd on
Dude what did you expect, the guy has 0 internal diplomatic experience, he is a real estate developer and trump is.. dont get me started on trump.. it is amateur hour.
swirve-psn on
Agent Witkoff probably benefits directly from the plan based on the rebuilding contracts. Maybe a non exec board role paying 10s of millions based on the advise he gives.
GuitarGeezer on
This has never NOT been Trump’s plan in Europe. He looked at NATO and decided he would rather be their enemies than their friends and says so on tv. He has always violently hated countries with rule of law because they cannot bribe him legally. Even Epstein wondered why the Russians had such incredible control over Trump but really just about any dictator will do it. Trump’s never read any book except a book of lowest common denominator dictator speeches as far as anybody has ever been able to tell. His likely dyslexia makes it impossible to read anything more intelligent than that.
True-Tip-2311 on
It’s Ukraine fighting russia, but it’s fuckin USA who capitulated.
Force_me_to on
How about we use my plan:
Russians withdraw from Ukraine.
Russia pays for reparations.
Russia release all Ukrainian people.
Russia hands over war criminals to be tried in Ukraine.
Russia elects new government within 30 days in a democratic way.
Russia uses Trump money to fund the army and equipment for Ukraine.
Russia takes Trump back home.
Russia releases Trumputinstein files.
Ok-Pepper7181 on
“Steve Witkoff’s peace plan for Ukraine is to hand ANOTHER victory to Putin.”
hrafn42 on
> … that the war was caused by Nato’s expansion eastward …
Russia didn’t invade because of NATO — NATO exists because Russia invades. Most of NATO’s eastward enlargement has been into countries that Russia (or the USSR) has invaded in the last century.
Mindless_Walrus_6575 on
Prosecute him rather sooner than later (Witkoff that is).
J-the-Kidder on
As it’s been every single time they’ve brought forth a peace plan. Just because you split that out more into, what, 26 or 28 points now, doesn’t make it a different plan than the one offered months ago and before that.
Zelensky should tell Witkoff, Putin and quite frankly the entire Trump administration to eat shit and stay out of this until they want to negotiate on their behalf, not Russia. That’ll at least keep them from creating headlines like this and putting unnecessary pressure on Zelensky to accept or decline some bullshit on an even more bullshit timeline.
PenitentGhost on
If America goes through on their threat of pulling intelligence leading to the deaths of thousands of Ukrainians, I can’t see how they can ever be trusted in NATO or elsewhere.
2xCommie on
At this stage, it’s not even security guarantees for Ukraine that I’m worried about. What security guarantees do NATO members have if they were to be invaded?
Article 5 never said that allies HAVE TO help MILITARILY. Who’s to say that 5000 helmets wouldn’t be sufficient to tick the box that you followed the obligations as outlined in Article 5?
And if you think the argument of „I don’t want my tax dollars going to help some Eastern European country half the world away“ ends with Ukraine, I have a bridge to sell ya.
Oh and Taiwan is already gone by this stage cuz unlike Ukraine, it’s not even recognised officially as a country.
VeryluckyorNot on
Yeah Frenches can say USA surrender to RUsSiA without fighting.
this_one_has_to_work on
Peace plans should create peace, not only quiet
IndieRus on
If this plan is accepted, I’b be very worried if I were Taiwan, Mexico, Canada, Venezuela and basically any other non-nuclear state.
BulletsInTheBhole on
Here is my conspiracy theorie:
– America is going to take the America’s.
– China gets Asia.
– Rusia is going to keep pestering Europe to try to weaken it.
Strange-Noises on
Well, since trump has historically acted as Putin’s personal dick holster, what else could we expect?
Foooff on
Could also be a handjob.
dextercho83 on
What a piece of shit.
Global_Essay_9619 on
Relax everyone, it won’t be accepted by both Russia or Ukraine, this “piece plan” is just a paper where the only benefiting part is USA which is wrong because they are the ones who created this situation. All these news headlines worth nothing, nothing will change. Again. Saved you clicks and nerve cells.
greenman0003 on
Handing Putin victory has been Putin’s plan all along, that’s why he helped get his puppet elected.
Possible-Customer827 on
Putin’s stooge is also hiding the pee pee tapes in addition to the Epstein tapes of him raping a 13 year old girl.
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History teaches us that you cannot appease war mongering dictators…
LOL, of course. After years of flip-flopping with ever failing to make it obvious, they made it really obvious.
The Epstein files can be cleared all they want…Russia still has the original files.
Ukraine needs to tell the US get bent
The USA fuckin stinks
Remember when the press was heiling on Trump on the grounds that he’d stand up to Putin? Yeh… that was a lie. Boris Johnson saying this probably should have let us know.
‚Peace Plan‘ drafted by Kremlin, promoted by Witless and the orange megalomaniac – what could possibly go wrong?
I mean the fact people are deluded to think Trump was nothing more then a Pro Russian stooge at worst or a moron at best who would back Russia is akin to when in Munich 1938, when Chamberlain said Hitler was reasonable
No autocrat is ever reasonable they will always want more and more. If this deal happens, Russia will
Attack Nato and it will be The Baltic next
Europe better stand up now or Russia will carve us up
Well, he will need somewhere to live once the US returns to some kind of normality in the future, hope it’s not a high rise apartment though.
Dude what did you expect, the guy has 0 internal diplomatic experience, he is a real estate developer and trump is.. dont get me started on trump.. it is amateur hour.
Agent Witkoff probably benefits directly from the plan based on the rebuilding contracts. Maybe a non exec board role paying 10s of millions based on the advise he gives.
This has never NOT been Trump’s plan in Europe. He looked at NATO and decided he would rather be their enemies than their friends and says so on tv. He has always violently hated countries with rule of law because they cannot bribe him legally. Even Epstein wondered why the Russians had such incredible control over Trump but really just about any dictator will do it. Trump’s never read any book except a book of lowest common denominator dictator speeches as far as anybody has ever been able to tell. His likely dyslexia makes it impossible to read anything more intelligent than that.
It’s Ukraine fighting russia, but it’s fuckin USA who capitulated.
How about we use my plan:
Russians withdraw from Ukraine.
Russia pays for reparations.
Russia release all Ukrainian people.
Russia hands over war criminals to be tried in Ukraine.
Russia elects new government within 30 days in a democratic way.
Russia uses Trump money to fund the army and equipment for Ukraine.
Russia takes Trump back home.
Russia releases Trumputinstein files.
“Steve Witkoff’s peace plan for Ukraine is to hand ANOTHER victory to Putin.”
> … that the war was caused by Nato’s expansion eastward …
Russia didn’t invade because of NATO — NATO exists because Russia invades. Most of NATO’s eastward enlargement has been into countries that Russia (or the USSR) has invaded in the last century.
Prosecute him rather sooner than later (Witkoff that is).
As it’s been every single time they’ve brought forth a peace plan. Just because you split that out more into, what, 26 or 28 points now, doesn’t make it a different plan than the one offered months ago and before that.
Zelensky should tell Witkoff, Putin and quite frankly the entire Trump administration to eat shit and stay out of this until they want to negotiate on their behalf, not Russia. That’ll at least keep them from creating headlines like this and putting unnecessary pressure on Zelensky to accept or decline some bullshit on an even more bullshit timeline.
If America goes through on their threat of pulling intelligence leading to the deaths of thousands of Ukrainians, I can’t see how they can ever be trusted in NATO or elsewhere.
At this stage, it’s not even security guarantees for Ukraine that I’m worried about. What security guarantees do NATO members have if they were to be invaded?
Article 5 never said that allies HAVE TO help MILITARILY. Who’s to say that 5000 helmets wouldn’t be sufficient to tick the box that you followed the obligations as outlined in Article 5?
And if you think the argument of „I don’t want my tax dollars going to help some Eastern European country half the world away“ ends with Ukraine, I have a bridge to sell ya.
Oh and Taiwan is already gone by this stage cuz unlike Ukraine, it’s not even recognised officially as a country.
Yeah Frenches can say USA surrender to RUsSiA without fighting.
Peace plans should create peace, not only quiet
If this plan is accepted, I’b be very worried if I were Taiwan, Mexico, Canada, Venezuela and basically any other non-nuclear state.
Here is my conspiracy theorie:
– America is going to take the America’s.
– China gets Asia.
– Rusia is going to keep pestering Europe to try to weaken it.
Well, since trump has historically acted as Putin’s personal dick holster, what else could we expect?
Could also be a handjob.
What a piece of shit.
Relax everyone, it won’t be accepted by both Russia or Ukraine, this “piece plan” is just a paper where the only benefiting part is USA which is wrong because they are the ones who created this situation. All these news headlines worth nothing, nothing will change. Again. Saved you clicks and nerve cells.
Handing Putin victory has been Putin’s plan all along, that’s why he helped get his puppet elected.
Putin’s stooge is also hiding the pee pee tapes in addition to the Epstein tapes of him raping a 13 year old girl.