Stellungnahme zu Regel 10: Donald Trump behauptet, dass Demokraten, die versuchen, Angehörige des US-Militärs daran zu erinnern, dass es für sie tatsächlich illegal ist, rechtswidrigen Befehlen Folge zu leisten, Verräter sind und ein schweres Verbrechen begangen haben, heißt es in einer ungenannten Stellungnahme "Großartig" Rechtswissenschaftler.

    Das Problem bei alledem ist, dass der Uniform Code of Military Justice deutlich macht, dass Militärangehörige nicht geschützt sind (und strafrechtlich verfolgt werden können), wenn sie einem rechtswidrigen Befehl Folge leisten. Im Handbuch der Kriegsgerichte heißt es ausdrücklich, dass eine Anordnung einen gültigen militärischen Zweck verfolgen, nicht im Widerspruch zu US-Recht oder der Verfassung der Vereinigten Staaten stehen und nicht gegen den Uniform Code of Military Justice verstoßen darf.

    Angehörige des US-Militärs haben nicht nur die rechtliche Möglichkeit, rechtswidrigen Befehlen zu widersprechen, sie haben auch die Pflicht, dies zu tun. Dies wird neuen Rekruten in der Grundausbildung beigebracht. Warum scheitert der Oberbefehlshaber darüber?

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    1. Popular_War8405 on

      Legal scholars…its just fraud. Those ppl spend decades memorizing completely irrelevant legal information so they nor others are actually aware of what laws say what

    2. M1M16M57M101 on

      Oh no people being seditious. What’s he gonna do, pardon them like the Jan 6 seditionists?

    3. Have the Democrats repeatedly called his orders regarding deportation illegal? Then some Democrats say disobey illegal orders…

    4. Kronomancer1192 on

      Who’s job is it to interpret what is or isnt an unlawful order after its been disobeyed? And who’s going to risk getting charged with treason in front of a military tribunal based on the hope that the order they disobeyed will be considered unlawful?

      Why haven’t there been any posts quoting what EXACT orders are being given out that are unlawful?

    5. porn_flakes on

      He’s crashing out because *he* *hasn’t given them unlawful orders*.

      That’s the reason the Dems were being so vague in their televised PSA. They have yet to specify which orders they’re telling military personnel to disobey. Rest assured, they met with a crew of lawyers so that script could be approved prior to airing whatever that was because advising service members to disobey direct orders IS sedition and they wanted to be very, very sure they could get as close to that line as they legally could.

      The whole affair was to sow doubt in the minds of service members who may personally dislike or even hate their commander in chief in order to foment some kind of crisis. They wanted to muddy the issue of whether an order a serviceman feels uncomfortable carrying out is an order he/she can disobey under the UCMJ (spoiler: it isn’t).

      The shitty part of this is that some kid is going to catch an Article 92 and possibly spend a couple of years in a military prison for disobeying a direct order because they don’t like the order and some politician on TV told him he didn’t have to follow it.

    6. Impressive_Speech_50 on

      Are these the same legal scholars that told you to pardon the j6ers and all your other criminal buddies? Shit birds of a feather flock together.

    7. TheGiftnTheCurse on

      Trump is right he is the democratically elected President, and when democrats tell service men not to follow orders, than say nothing about which orders or why, that is considered Treason.

      Democrats need to start fighting for America instead of Illegals

    8. oatballlove on

      we have allready learnt how trump prefers to „unalive“ to use his words people who travel on boats in international waters instead of following the usual procedure to stop them, take their drugs away from them and bring them before court where they might get a mild sentence if they were for example doing such smuggling tours for the first time

      80 people travelling on board of such ships what might have or have not transported drugs became victim of the supreme murderer in chief of usa intimidation urges what of course also make everyone in the military passing down those premeditated murder orders and enacting on them complicit

      those people in boats were not doing any agression, they were not attacking anyone

      because transporting drugs is not an agression itself

      its the buyer who is responsible to buy or not something of unknown quality in a shady street corner what might have the consequence of dying from the consumption of such substances

      also worth noting how there was someone with the united nations who recently called those murders out as „extrajudical killings“ and unacceptable behaviour in international waters

      and even after that

      the „unaliving“ of people on boats continued

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      https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/23/464129029/donald-trump-i-could-shoot-somebody-and-i-wouldnt-lose-any-voters

      Donald Trump: ‚I Could … Shoot Somebody, And I Wouldn’t Lose Any Voters‘
      January 23, 2016

    9. SomeSamples on

      The Democrats never told the military to disobey Trump’s orders. They just reminded the military that they are not obey illegal orders. Hmmm, maybe Trump knows he is issuing illegal orders. Or should I say, Steven Miller et. al. are submitting illegal orders through Trump. I am not sure Trump knows what day it is.

    10. RyverFisher on

      The problem is convincing military that some orders are illegal when they are not, that’s where it becomes seditious.

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