It would look bad if they didn’t take ownership. Its really that simple.
arvigeus on
“No, we are not stupid, just incompetent”
Alternative_Dot_6084 on
I mean it still is Russian paper, after all Washingtongrad is now a oblast after USA’s surrender.
BrofessorFarnsworth on
How would it be different if it wasn’t a Russian wishlist?
MAGA are stupid as fuck. Without exception.
geekpeeps on
Yeah, we know.
What has Ukraine been fighting for, if only to give it over because the US says it should. Bugger that.
Theincendiarydvice on
Jennifer Laurence yeah okay
Power-Equality on
“What an odd thing to say”
IncoherentThoughts0 on
US insists it authored Ukrainian surrender proposal.
JjForcebreaker on
Even with widely acknowledged cultural, social and state decline, it’s quite stunning how hellbent that administration is when it comes to appeasing bandit mass murderers.
ObjectPretty on
That’s not something to be proud of.
CheesyLala on
„Please accept this or we’ll be forced to make a better offer“.
‚Art of the deal‘ my fucking arse.
momob3rry on
MAGA is very brainwashed. They want to support Russia because they view Russia as a “Christian” nation.
knotatumah on
*“Claims“* of a Russian wish list? The „peace deal“ literally gave everything to Russia and tied Ukraine’s hands & feet together like *they* started the war.
Fanass on
Trump, Putin’s b*tch
Trump, the wh*re of all dictators
History will remember this
lordpoee on
Then they lie,
It was drafted in a back-channel between Kirill Dmitriev (a senior Russian official close to the Kremlin) and Steve Witkoff, Trump’s special representative.
The proposal contains several phrases that linguistic analysts note are typical Russian bureaucratic constructions, such as:
– “All ambiguities of the last 30 years will be considered resolved.”
– “It is expected that Russia will not invade neighbouring countries…” (in some versions).
These exact lines appear in the leaked text and have been flagged by multiple independent reporters/analysts as “translation-like.”
• Different outlets published slightly different English phrasings of the same clauses, indicating the text went through translation or re-translation steps.
• The substance matches long-standing Russian demands, including:
– Ukraine giving up NATO membership
– Recognizing Russian control of occupied territories
– Military limits placed on Ukraine, not Russia
– Sanctions relief discussions
These points appear consistently across all published versions of the plan.
• Ukraine and key European governments have rejected the plan as unacceptable and heavily tilted toward Russia. Public statements from Zelensky and reporting from Reuters confirm this.
PriorityMuted8024 on
Then they did an awfully bad job with that. Reaven would spin in his coffin if he knew about that.
scotchtree on
Trump pushing through an ultimatum because Congress forced a vote on Russian sanctions?
nicubunu on
If USA made the list alone, that’s even worse
Interesting_Road_380 on
I’m surprised they went to the trouble of having it written by real Russians and not by grok
MysteriousWon on
Yes, fight to take credit for this piece of shit. That’s what *everybody* wants.
Open-Outcome-660 on
Americans shouldn’t be surprised if they’re hated whenever they go outside their own borders from now on.
Blind-_-Tiger on
„Wow wow wow wow.“
Drenosa on
That’s just as bad, if not worse.
Really showing off the Russian corruption there.
Gransmithy on
Somehow US giving Russians every thing they want on their own makes it worse.
Fabster_3000 on
Embarrassing
Onlypizzafans69 on
It’s funny how Trump wants to so badly leave a historical mark of his presidency, he probably has the most chances of any US president in history, to defeat Russia and carve his name in history as the one who finally ended the cold war, and defeated america’s long standing nemesis. But no, he rather blows ~~bubba~~ Putin and is doing everything he can to go into history as the worst us president thats ever lived(so far)
OldLondon on
But that’s worse, so THEY created a Russian wish list?
Shodan76 on
I’d check the word document metadata, the fields everyone forgot to modify like author and such.
-HTID- on
MAGAts are putins puppets
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It would look bad if they didn’t take ownership. Its really that simple.
“No, we are not stupid, just incompetent”
I mean it still is Russian paper, after all Washingtongrad is now a oblast after USA’s surrender.
How would it be different if it wasn’t a Russian wishlist?
MAGA are stupid as fuck. Without exception.
Yeah, we know.
What has Ukraine been fighting for, if only to give it over because the US says it should. Bugger that.
Jennifer Laurence yeah okay
“What an odd thing to say”
US insists it authored Ukrainian surrender proposal.
Even with widely acknowledged cultural, social and state decline, it’s quite stunning how hellbent that administration is when it comes to appeasing bandit mass murderers.
That’s not something to be proud of.
„Please accept this or we’ll be forced to make a better offer“.
‚Art of the deal‘ my fucking arse.
MAGA is very brainwashed. They want to support Russia because they view Russia as a “Christian” nation.
*“Claims“* of a Russian wish list? The „peace deal“ literally gave everything to Russia and tied Ukraine’s hands & feet together like *they* started the war.
Trump, Putin’s b*tch
Trump, the wh*re of all dictators
History will remember this
Then they lie,
It was drafted in a back-channel between Kirill Dmitriev (a senior Russian official close to the Kremlin) and Steve Witkoff, Trump’s special representative.
The proposal contains several phrases that linguistic analysts note are typical Russian bureaucratic constructions, such as:
– “All ambiguities of the last 30 years will be considered resolved.”
– “It is expected that Russia will not invade neighbouring countries…” (in some versions).
These exact lines appear in the leaked text and have been flagged by multiple independent reporters/analysts as “translation-like.”
• Different outlets published slightly different English phrasings of the same clauses, indicating the text went through translation or re-translation steps.
• The substance matches long-standing Russian demands, including:
– Ukraine giving up NATO membership
– Recognizing Russian control of occupied territories
– Military limits placed on Ukraine, not Russia
– Sanctions relief discussions
These points appear consistently across all published versions of the plan.
• Ukraine and key European governments have rejected the plan as unacceptable and heavily tilted toward Russia. Public statements from Zelensky and reporting from Reuters confirm this.
Then they did an awfully bad job with that. Reaven would spin in his coffin if he knew about that.
Trump pushing through an ultimatum because Congress forced a vote on Russian sanctions?
If USA made the list alone, that’s even worse
I’m surprised they went to the trouble of having it written by real Russians and not by grok
Yes, fight to take credit for this piece of shit. That’s what *everybody* wants.
Americans shouldn’t be surprised if they’re hated whenever they go outside their own borders from now on.
„Wow wow wow wow.“
That’s just as bad, if not worse.
Really showing off the Russian corruption there.
Somehow US giving Russians every thing they want on their own makes it worse.
Embarrassing
It’s funny how Trump wants to so badly leave a historical mark of his presidency, he probably has the most chances of any US president in history, to defeat Russia and carve his name in history as the one who finally ended the cold war, and defeated america’s long standing nemesis. But no, he rather blows ~~bubba~~ Putin and is doing everything he can to go into history as the worst us president thats ever lived(so far)
But that’s worse, so THEY created a Russian wish list?
I’d check the word document metadata, the fields everyone forgot to modify like author and such.
MAGAts are putins puppets